sorear changed the topic of #riscv to: RISC-V instruction set architecture | https://riscv.org | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/riscv
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<klys> hi. I have my sipeed nezha board. looking for the power switch.
<klys> it's plugged in, and the power led is red.
<klys> other connections include a usb keyboard and a monitor
<klys> oh, I was able to toggle caps/numlk
<klys> my monitor connection is hdmi2vga with a 1920x1200 monitor
<klys> the monitor seems to have entered sleep mode
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<klys> have completed chroot into the filesystem and everything seems to be in working order
<klys> still I cannot ping nor ssh into the ip it seems to be grabbing
<klys> and that doesn't show up in arp -n (incomplete)
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<qwestion> muurkha, [exa]:
<qwestion> Funny how linus said x86 was his favorite in a yt vid
<qwestion> > chuck moore said the i386 was the worst architecture he ever worked with
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<geertu> qwestion: Probably he suffered too hard from the castrated version of the real processor he had before? (68008 ;-)
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<gordonDrogon> "brand loyalty" - ie. in this case the first CPU you ever used might remain your favourite for life. For me, that's the 6502 but RISC based thingies come a close second.
<la_mettrie> (6502 also for linus)
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<gordonDrogon> there may well be "political" pressure on Linus - i386 is what he developed Linux on and he worked for transmeta developing (presumably) the x86 core for it, so who knows.
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<gordonDrogon> that's an intersting read.
<gordonDrogon> some good points too - but I wonder how many x86 instructions the compilers actually use? I worked out in my very domain specific thing I'm using just 29 instructions in my RISC-V implementation.
<sorear> "instructions" is a fairly ill-defined conceptg
<sorear> (and a lot of them will only show up with FP or vector code)
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<[exa]> 500 shades of MOV
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<JanC> gordonDrogon: Linus mostly worked on the software side for Transmeta AFAIK
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<muurkha> qwestion: maybe Linus was comparing the i386 to its successors and Moore to its predecessors? or maybe they just have different value systems
<muurkha> like, Moore was comparing i386 to the Unicode 1108, and Linus was comparing it to Tensilica or something
<muurkha> in that post he's comparing the i386 to PowerPC and AMD64, and the values he states are that "for the masses" is the only part that really matters and performance is good
<muurkha> Moore evidently never gave two farts about the masses, and his level of concern for performance is not that high either
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<sorear> I can't evaluate what Moore meant since I don't have a source for the claim
<sorear> and the post (OP) is comparing to ia64, not amd64; amd64 isn't even mentioned until the last two
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<aredridel> Or linus is super familiar with the i386, and likes familiarity :P
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