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<kciN> Hi, guys! Could you recommend some learning resources for programming in risc-v assembly?
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<rjek> kciN: I bought a copy of The RISC-V Reader.
<enthusi> yes, that one is very great
<rjek> I would recommend it
<enthusi> there is also a book by Anthony J. Dos Reis that I liked though it aims at beginners
<rjek> Succinct
<enthusi> and there is learning by doing of course :)
<enthusi> in fact I link to the riscv assembler 'bronzebeard' in there which has a nice doc-section
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* rjek has been spoiled by ARM
<rjek> (Basically the only assembly I'm productive in)
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<kciN> Thanks a lot!
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<dh`> off-topic but likely of interest to a few people here: https://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-vax/2021/07/03/msg003899.html
<dh`> (vax in an fpga)
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<sorear> cute
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<geist> dh`: ooooh i like!
<geist> surprised he says it fits in 6000 luts, but then it is a fairly regular ISA
<dh`> there's three separate threads there btw, sorry our mail-index interface sucks
<dh`> (well, sucks is too strong, but it isn't all that navigable)
<dh`> geist: wouldn't be surprised if he'd taken steps to make it small
<jrtc27> extending the VAX seems pointless
<jrtc27> the whole point of the port is to support retro computing
<jrtc27> if you extend it then it's no longer retro, it's a new thing
<jrtc27> so why not just use a sane modern ISA for that
<geist> awww get in the spirit of vax!
<geist> but yes, extending it doesn't seem like a worthwhile thing
<jrtc27> I have no issue with hobbyists reimplementing the ISA in order to get a fast low-power implementation compared to the old behemoths :P
<geist> yah i have my trusty microvax right here actually. beig its a later version (SOC) it only burns obout 90W
<geist> but... it's not fast.
<jrtc27> would be interesting to see how it scales on bigger FPGAs like the XCVU9P used on Amazon F1...
<jrtc27> both speed and SMP
<geist> though the real fundamental problem is modern netbsd is really not stable on it. it is still maintained, but the vibe i get from the mailing list and whatnot is after a while netbsd got too big to comfortably run (blows the 4K cache, etc) and then it's actually unstable because of probably gcc bugs or whatnot
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<geist> so i guess actually having a faster/modern vax implementation would be nice as a base to re-stabilize the port i guess
<sorear> the 6000 is for a heavily microcoded impl
<geist> yah, also things like having additional adders for address calculation should be more or less 'free' on a FPGA
<geist> so doesn't necessarily have to be so microcoded that there's a single ALU for everything, etc
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<geist> oh i see their post describing the design now
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<geist> now i see what you mean by the future expansion stuff
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