01:39 <arigato> mattip: what is the mechanism to add dll directories at startup? I don't see how it can be done other than writing some custom C code---in other words, they need to write a custom version of pypy3.exe anyway, no?

02:13 <arigato> randomly looking at python-dev, I see that it's still the same infinite discussions going everywhere but a more agressive tone than I remember. E.g. Guido is told he doesn't understand what it's about, he politely answers that he'll leave the discussion then, and nobody else finds that strange

02:14 <arigato> and of course cfbolz injecting a "pypy has always done that and it works" and is entirely ignored

02:15 <arigato> (but that last part is not new)

06:42 <LarstiQ> snow! snow!

12:19 <cfbolz> arigato: oh, which thread was that?

12:20 <cfbolz> the 'None' one?

20:54 <mattip> arigato: conda patches pypy with this

20:54 <mattip> https://github.com/conda-forge/pypy3.6-feedstock/blob/main/recipe/patches/0014-Add-CondaEcosystemModifyDllSearchPath.patch

20:55 <mattip> that adds a function CondaEcosystemModifyDllSearchPath_Init() to call add_dll_directory()

20:55 <mattip> so the custom C code is already written. The question is when to call it

20:56 <mattip> currently this is called as part of app_main, which solves find dlls for all the cffi c-extensions