06:57 <Nistur> mornin'

06:59 <Regenaxer> Hi Nistur!

06:59 <Nistur> hullo!

07:03 <Nistur> I have a penti update :P I sanded and filled it... then got bored, as this is just a prototype anyway to test the feel, I decided that perfect smoothness wasn't paramount, so I started painting it. I went for matt black because I didn't have any other colour that wasn't either hammerite (which I thought would look weird) super gloss, or like... pink

07:04 <Regenaxer> Nice :)

07:04 <Nistur> however, I left them out of the shed, in the sun, to dry, so I could sand them back a bit before the final clear coat... and... well... I printed it in PLA, which gets soft 50-60C... it didn't get anywhere near that hot but... black paint

07:04 <Nistur> so my base got soft and shrunk

07:04 <Nistur> the top, thankfully, is still perfect

07:05 <aw-> Nistur: pics?

07:05 <aw-> hi Nistur Regenaxer

07:06 <Regenaxer> Hi aw-!

07:08 <aw-> I also have a Creality

07:09 <Nistur> \o/

07:10 <aw-> just checked logs haha

07:10 <aw-> welcome to the world of endless fuckery just to make a tiny thing

07:10 <Nistur> mine is currently printing 1/8 of a Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine helmet... because... I thought it'd be a good idea: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540902781569990699/857515157383282698/signal-2021-06-24-073132.jpg - I underestimated the size of the thing, I think

07:10 <Nistur> "tiny thing"

07:11 <aw-> wow !

07:11 <aw-> is that custom direct extruder mount?

07:12 <Nistur> Micro Swiss DD and all metal hotend

07:12 <aw-> cool, mine is Titan DD and E3D V6 (all metal)

07:12 <Nistur> I was debating what hotend to upgrade to

07:12 <aw-> i see you're using Capricorn too, good choice

07:12 <Nistur> almost went with the hemera

07:13 <mtsd> Good morning!

07:13 <Nistur> o7

07:14 <Nistur> aw-: did you see the MDF blank of the keyboard I made first? While I upload photos of the print

07:14 <mtsd> Hahaha, aw-, I am saving the ""welcome to the world of..." quote for use in the future. Suitable for so many, many situations :)

07:14 <aw-> hemera looks awesome, i kinda wish i got that instead haha

07:14 <aw-> mtsd: haha ok

07:14 <aw-> Nistur: no i didn't see it

07:16 <Nistur> aw-: apologies, I pretty much suck at webdev stuff, so I just used a static photo gallery generator, but it doesn't scale the images nicely, and I took them on my phone, so the site hurts in landscape, if you're viewing on a desktop, shrink the browser to being portrait-y and it's more pleasant: https://nistur.keybase.pub/Projects/Penti/index.html

07:18 <aw-> oh that's awesome

07:19 <aw-> will be much easier to 3d print that haha

07:19 <aw-> assuming you can design it ;)

07:20 <Nistur> good point, let me grab a photo of that too

07:26 <Nistur> aw-: https://keybase.pub/nistur/Penti/ that's the source for the static gallery, 13 onwards are images you haven't seen

07:27 <aw-> woww that looks awesome

07:27 <Nistur> I didn't design the shape of the keyboard in CAD, I took around 30 photos of it at all angles and then did photogrammetry stuff to magic it into a 3D model

07:29 <aw-> wow that sounds like a great idea

07:30 <aw-> i guess nowadays the tech is accessible enough for home-users to do that

07:30 <Nistur> https://github.com/nistur/pentinsy/tree/main/model the features in it were done in a mix of OpenSCAD and Meshlab, and each stage was split out so I could debug it and... procrastinate

07:31 <beneroth> hi all :D

07:31 <Nistur> hullo beneroth

07:31 <beneroth> yeah great quote aw- :D

07:31 <aw-> hi beneroth

07:32 <aw-> Nistur: i wonder if github pages would serve you well instead of keybase for that site

07:32 <aw-> since it's directly related to your project on github

07:33 <Nistur> maybe, but I set up the static site before I had any code

07:33 <aw-> i mean.. i didn't even know keybase could be used to host photos and web pages haha

07:33 <Nistur> and now it's effort to migrate it :P

07:33 <aw-> yeah that's fine, was just an idea

07:33 <Nistur> keybase has 'kbfs' for storage, but it also provides a basic static webserver

07:34 <aw-> how long did it take to print that penti keyboard?

07:34 <aw-> ohhhh you have a Makefile to generate the stl

07:34 <aw-> that's brilliant

07:34 <aw-> stls*

07:35 <Nistur> aw-: Last print time: 24:12:14

07:36 <aw-> yikes

07:36 <Nistur> could probably make it faster, and more accurate, by changing orientation and tweaking feed rates etc (it's currently mostly stock in that regard)

07:36 <Nistur> the first print I did of it (the grey one in the photos) was ~3 days :D

07:36 <aw-> so you leave it printing overnight i guess... i'm terrified to leave it unattended for more than 5 minutes

07:37 <aw-> wow

07:38 <Nistur> yeah, I have octoprint with a camera, so I keep an eye on it. It's usually the last thing I check before I go to sleep, and the first thing when I wake up, to make sure nothing's going terribly wrong

07:38 <aw-> same with octoprint/camera, but i still don't think it's enough

07:38 <aw-> hahaha

07:39 <Nistur> the absolute worst case is, it starts a fire. The chances of that are near zero, but it's a possibility. It's in my shed at the bottom of the garden though, so if that _did_ happen, I'd lose tools and project stuff, but no risk to life or anything

07:39 <Nistur> more likely, but less fatal failure cases are pretty much failed prints, which I can easily recover from

07:39 <aw-> yeah same here, it's not in my house but i'd lose all my computers and electronics parts and tools ahahaha

07:40 <Nistur> I've killed a cheap hotend, but parts are easy easy to replace, so...

07:40 <aw-> right

07:40 <Nistur> there is, of course, a risk with leaving it unattended, but I'm ok with tha

07:40 <Nistur> that

07:40 <aw-> lucky, i'm too paranoid haha

07:41 <aw-> so what's the status of the penti now?

07:41 <aw-> are you going to print more?

07:42 <aw-> make more tweaks? release it on thingiverse?

07:43 <Nistur> anyway, the keyboard. I have been playing around with it a bit. I originally got cherry mx red switches (or, well, clones) because I intended to make it as quiet as possible, as I was going to use it with a sleeping MiniNisturette next to me... I've procrastinated too long, and that's not really a requirement... I have blues in my daily driver, and the reds just feel super spongy... plus I can't find the

07:43 <Nistur> bag of my spares... so I just ordered some blues. I'll wire everything up when I get them delivered

07:43 <Nistur> I still have some minor tweaks to do on the base, so that it's printable. Right now there are some issues with how I designed it

07:43 <Nistur> but once it's done, I'll probably stick it on thingiverse, yeah

07:44 <aw-> i literally just got a kb with cherry mx reds, indeed very spongy i kinda like it

07:44 <aw-> my other kb has cherry mx browns and they're pretty loud

07:44 <aw-> can't imagine blues

07:44 <Nistur> I don't mind loud

07:45 <Nistur> for one thing, I'm working from home, but even when I wasn't, my colleagues got used to them very quickly and didn't complain

07:45 <aw-> ok i'll watch your progress

07:45 <aw-> good project you have there :)

07:45 <Nistur> https://github.com/nistur/pentinsy/blob/main/01-chords/layout-US.h <-- the status of the keyboard is... everything with an actual character there will work. The ones that say FUNC... mostly don't

07:46 <Nistur> the FUNCs that do work are here: https://github.com/nistur/pentinsy/blob/main/01-chords/layout-base.h

07:46 <Nistur> M_ is mode (ie M_D is digit) and K_ is key... looks like for some reason I started counting at 1

07:49 <Nistur> looks like... shift punct and digit are all done, altgr is not because most of those characters are not in a US keymap which makes it difficult to type as it's using USB HID

07:50 <Nistur> and I've only done F1-F12 in the funct layer

07:52 <Nistur> I may see what I can do with those at some point

08:03 <Regenaxer> Hi mtsd, beneroth!

08:05 <mtsd> Hi Regenaxer!

19:00 <beneroth> \o/ Nistur

19:02 <Nistur> \o/

19:06 <Nistur> I just checked, estimated delivery 29th-1st.. which sucks... buuuuut there's a tracking number and yodel are delivering them and got them yesterday lunch time, and started moving today... so there's every chance they'll arrive earlier :D

19:08 <Nistur> I hadn't actually tried the controller. I've got a test one which I had been using... for testing... but I just programmed the one in the print, and prodded at it with some random wires, it's working