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<gamozo>
Morn
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<gog>
mew
<zid`>
gog: GeDaMo says you're made up
<gog>
no i'm not going out today so i'm not gonna bother with makeup
<zid`>
Same
<zid`>
I've not done my mascara in years
<gog>
you should
<gog>
everybody looks better with exaggerated eyelashes
<zid`>
my eyelashes are pretty great to begin with
<zid`>
I could sell them
<zid`>
also eyelashes are weird as hell as a concept
<zid`>
There's a draft excluder along the sensitive membrane that protects your eye, and nobody ever really notices, like it isn't super weird looking
<kingoffrance>
then the eyelashes function as a decoy :D
<kingoffrance>
very useful
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<gog>
gotta keep the drafts out of your eye
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<zid`>
fuck yes, it's suddenly cold and raining
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<zid`>
please deposit your envy at the door it will be collected by my servants later
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<sbalmos>
after a week of 95F/110F+ heat index and either torrential rain or haze that did nothing to the heat, it's 62F this morning and sunny clear. time to go flying.
<gog>
the other day it was like 15° so i wore a summer outfit and then while i was at work the temperature dropped down to 5°
<gog>
and i had biked to work lol
<zid`>
That's why you should a) never go outside and b) dress like an eskimo
<gog>
well i have to get to work somehow
<zid`>
if it's too hot you can always tear off your clothes like a mad lady and start screaming about the ants eating your stomach
<zid`>
just so they don't think you're weird for stripping in the street ofc
<mrvn>
sbalmos: you mean after a half fortnight?
<sbalmos>
sure
<sbalmos>
half-sprint, half-work-unit, take your pick. ;)
<zid`>
They will say "Oh that's a perfectly reasonable thing to do, ants sure are annoying", and then go about their day
<zid`>
but with some kind of icelandic accent, I assume
<sbalmos>
zid`: better than screaming about the worms eating your stomach? though I guess screaming "I've got worms!" wouldn't quite work
<zid`>
Exactly, that just leads to other suspicions
<zid`>
it has to be something clean you can just stop the rumors dead with
<zid`>
with no room for other interpretations
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<Mutabah>
Huzzah, EHCI driver working enough to enumerate devices
<mrvn>
gog: if I'm lazy and have to go to work I roll over in bed and turn on the laptop.
<gog>
nice
<zid`>
mice.
<gog>
my boss doesn't want us to work from home and tbh i really don't want to either
<gog>
at least not at the moment
<gog>
i've got a big desk and three monitors there
<gog>
makes it easiesr to deal with the hundreds of phone calls i answer
<sbalmos>
I sometimes miss the (very low) white noise of others outside the office door
<j`ey>
Mutabah: gg
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<mrvn>
Anyone have some simple code to turn a series of framebuffers into a video?
<GeDaMo>
Maybe ffmpeg?
<mrvn>
obviously, is there any other?
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<geist>
zid`: heh it's been cold and rainign here for like 9 monutes
<geist>
months
<bauen1>
geist: can i trade you some german 32°C+ weather for that ?
<geist>
it's unusually cold and wet this june here. should have already warmed up
<geist>
though we usually dont get much into the 30s here
<zid`>
bauen1: you were supposed to leave your envy for my servants to collect
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<gog>
mew
* moon-child
pets god
<zid`>
I'm out here getting pog
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<gog>
poggers
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<zid`>
moon-child pets gog, I get pog.
<heat_>
pogchamp
* moon-child
feeling very depressed, considering booze and/or ice cream
<moon-child>
but it's still early afternoon, i should try to do something...
<geist>
usually taking a walk helps when i'm feeling down
<zid`>
I recommend made in abyss, can't feel sad if you're having a panic attack
<geist>
oh geez. also the second season is landing this year i think
<zid`>
couple of weeks, infact
<zid`>
wait, maybe I'm swapping that for something else
<zid`>
yea, 6th next month
<zid`>
also yofukashi no uta, the magoo of which I randomly found and read last week and really liked, so I get 2 adaptations at once for things I like
<zid`>
Whether they can get the atmosphere right is gunna make or break that one though
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<mjg_>
uh... the title made me thin it's a sci-fi a'la even horizon
<mjg_>
event
<zid`>
It's a cute series about small children living happy lives
<mjg_>
i recommend Grave of the Fireflies
<mjg_>
it's a cute story about 2 little siblings
<mjg_>
don't be mislead by the title!
<zid`>
Yes it is a very good movie everybody should watch precisely once
<zid`>
Then attach their best seal to, and put under guard
<mjg_>
i hear "Come and See" (not an anime) is a hearth-warming coming of age story
<mjg_>
it is on my to-watch list
<zid`>
have you seen When the wind blows
<mjg_>
no
<mjg_>
ok, read the synopsis, nice to have a happy retirement story
<zid`>
I just wish people wouldn't be rude about it and call it a disaster of a movie
<zid`>
I thought it was very good
<heat>
how does one easily read a whole line from stdin without setting an arbitrary limit?
<heat>
in C
<\Test_User>
getline
<\Test_User>
will be null-terminated though
<zid`>
read() might just fail early regardless, so what is the real question imo
<zid`>
like, nothing stops posix giving you 4096 characters then another 84 characters
<zid`>
nothing in posix stops it*
<kazinsal>
fread() in chunks until you find a newline then ungetc any unwanted bits back into the stream
<zid`>
or read() a byte at a time and don't, slower but works
<heat>
these are all horrific solutions
<zid`>
why don't you ask the real question
<zid`>
acting like we've never seen an xy before
<heat>
getline looks useful, GNU extension?
<kazinsal>
if you didn't want horrors you wouldn't be doing whatever it is you're doing in c stdio
<heat>
*that* is the question lol
<zid`>
it's not even anything to do with cstdio tbh, it's just not something posix lets you do
<zid`>
so *why* are you trying to work around posix? what problem do you have?
<\Test_User>
it's a part of stdin.h on my system, but that's about all I know about where it comes from
<kazinsal>
getline was a gnu extension until posix2008 iirc
<heat>
i just want a way to grab an arbitrarily long line from stdin because I've seen this problem a lot of times when writing C code
<heat>
and a way that doesn't require me to reinvent the wheel/loop realloc calls + fgets
<psykose>
getline is posix, seems fine
<zid`>
rephrase it as a different problem imo, do it as a slice algo or something
<zid`>
or use someone else's code
<zid`>
getopt for example
<kazinsal>
so yeah the answer is "getline on new posix, or reimplement getline on old posix/iso c"
<heat>
psykose, oh right, the comment in the header is outdated
<heat>
" This function is not part of POSIX"
<kazinsal>
I won't look at the glibc implementation of getline because I don't want my eyeballs to be permanently tainted
<kazinsal>
but I would bet it's just a fgets/realloc loop
<heat>
you wish pal
<heat>
i just got mine tainted
<heat>
you can't use fgets because it uses getdelim as the backend
<zid`>
fgets is annoying in that it returns the \n
<heat>
and the logic there is... fucking hell
<heat>
oh yeah that too
<zid`>
so I generally just write a quick 'grab a string'
<kazinsal>
hmm, yeah, reading the freebsd one it's slower but more careful
<kazinsal>
I don't hate it
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<heat>
i don't particularly dislike the musl one compared to glibc
<heat>
and that tells you everything you need to know about glibc lol
<heat>
but yeah, this fucking sucks ig
<heat>
i had a programming puzzle I wanted to write in C for the challenge and the first thing that pissed me off was stdio
<heat>
somehow, still better than iostreams
<zid`>
yea that's honestly the worst part of doing advent of code etc in C
<zid`>
you have to parse all the data in first
<heat>
i still dunno how to parse stdio or strings in C++
<\Test_User>
if stdio was written in C++ then no doubt it'd be worse than iostreams :P
<heat>
the last time I did my coding interview I said screw it and used sscanf in C++
<heat>
I passed, which means big tech agrees with me
<gog>
iostreams is bad
<zid`>
iostreams is incredibly bad
<zid`>
It's so bad that exceptions would actually make its interface better