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<kintel> I wonder if it's time to kill DXF support for LinearExtrude and RotateExtrude. It's been deprecated since 2011.12
<teepee> and import_stl()
<kintel> Yeah, import_*() should go too.
<kintel> Not a huge deal, just nice to avoid moving that old code along when we refactor
<teepee> and -x / -s
<teepee> child() ?
<gbruno> [github] fedekrum opened issue #4925 (Strange render lines with manyfold option on beta) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4925
<kintel> teepee Yeah, we might as well do some spring cleaning :)
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<kintel> pca006132 Just noticed that projection(cut=true) still needs CGAL - do you know if that's implementable with Manifold?
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<teepee> I think there is Slice which sounds like the matching feature
<teepee> kintel: ^
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<kintel> teepee thx, updated #4825 to mention Slice
<gbruno> [github] kintel edited issue #4825 (Move manifold out of experimental) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4825
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<Guest16> Hey
<Guest16> I am new here
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<guso78k69> Hi new Guest!
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<J24k84> welcome!
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<gbruno> [github] synco opened issue #4926 (Array indexing incorrectly) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4926
<gbruno> [github] synco edited issue #4926 (Array indexing incorrectly) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4926
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<gbruno> [github] gisforgirard opened pull request #4927 (Update cgal.h) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/4927
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<gbruno> [github] fedekrum edited issue #4925 (Strange render lines with manyfold option on beta) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4925
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<J24k84> can someone enlighten me where this library is found in openSCAD https://github.com/openscad/openscad/files/13853969/Bezier_library_for_OpenScad.zip ?
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<gbruno> [github] thehans closed issue #4926 (Array indexing incorrectly) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/4926
<peepsalot> J24k84: what do you mean where it is found? its not part of openscad, so nowhere...
<peepsalot> J24k84: if you want to know where to place it, you can click File -> Show Library Folder
<J24k84> ah i guess the location is because it was uploaded into an issue .. that confused me
<peepsalot> right, its just an issue attachment
<peepsalot> the previous link was to a thingiverse thing
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<juri_> hey, i was having a bad idea in inplititcad, and thought i'd spread it here. managing libraries is a pain, so i was considering going the route of most languages (other than C/C++), and would integrate some package management into the language. something as simple as changing import to add a git repo / branch.
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<InPhase> juri_: Yeah, we've floated that idea for OpenSCAD.
<juri_> it seems like something that's holding the language back. which i hate to say, because i hate language-specific package managers.
<InPhase> Yeah.
<InPhase> We didn't leap on it, I guess partially because nobody really loves any of the proposed solutions. But it is the sort of thing needed.
<InPhase> Any chosen solution shoots your foot off in a slightly different way as you get permanently attached to that solution.
<InPhase> One idea I floated once was that of having little python plugins as loaders, so that they could be added to or swapped out by users to manage the problem of site changes breaking library access in old releases.
<InPhase> This idea was rejected in discussion on the basis that we weren't sure we wanted to couple OpenSCAD executables to python. But maybe we're warming more to that idea. :)
<juri_> eeew. python. i hope you don't go that route. :P
<InPhase> Well, it would work well for us. ;) I anticipated you hating it, but maybe you could find another suitable method for such plugin notions that works with your preferences.
<InPhase> There was a logic behind that workflow idea.
<InPhase> Or there might be other ways to solve the same problem of site changes or flexibly adding support for other sites post-release.
<teepee> I had hopes for entropic which claimed at the time to be JavaScript but also for all languages. I have not looked for a while, but I think it's really dead by now
<teepee> the only fully integrated one is deno as far as I'm aware, are there others?
<teepee> integrated as in include/import does network urls
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<othx> guso78k69 linked to YouTube video "Surreal gears" => 1 IRC mentions
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<buZz> what was emmett's webbrowser-openscad-alike again?
<buZz> i thought manifold.org but nope
<teepee> there's -cad in there I think
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<buZz> manifoldcad.org! tnx
<teepee> yep, no - :)
<buZz> tnx ^_^
<buZz> some new member noticed a openscad screenshot on our hackerspace signal group
<buZz> and was 'hey i tried to draw 4D shapes in blender and it crashed, whats that language?'
<buZz> always nice when new members jump directly past all current members knowledge while still adopting new stuff from them :)
<teepee> sounds promising
<buZz> we'll see
<buZz> students arent often sticking around very long
<teepee> true, maybe a different country next year
<teepee> plus that family thing that usually changes things :)
<teepee> entropic "a package registry for anything, but mostly javascript" - last change in masster branch 5 years ago :(
<teepee> dodo
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<Scopeuk> I think there was also a vcpkg varient someone talked about at one point
<teepee> yes, I tried using it and it did not feel that easy to use, and the person suggesting it vanished
<Scopeuk> that's fair
<Scopeuk> I've not used ce but have used vcpkg and it works but it feels like it was made for a ci server
<teepee> totally diffent things as far as I understand it
<Scopeuk> I think they operate the same but for different content?
<Scopeuk> unimportant anyway if it's not workign for us
<teepee> it might be worth another look, but it seemed like it needed a couple of not so nice workarounds, not sure how platform independent those were
<Scopeuk> yeh the docs seam to indicate that it is meant to setup the results of using vcpkg for source builds
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<JordanBrown> InPhase: I upgraded my Model A to something more like a Camry. I think my OpenSCAD build time dropped from about 35m to about 3m.
<JordanBrown> i7-13700, 2.1GHz, 64GB.
<JordanBrown> SSD
<JordanBrown> My ideal -j value changed from 3 to ~16.