<InPhase>
There's always a subtle aesthetic imperfection in that AxialFunc solution path because it basically plots layers. But the layers there in the demo are twice as fine as a standard printer produces, which has the same intrinsic imperfection. So it's about as good as a printed object will get on standard systems.
<InPhase>
If I wanted to round the top more finely for display purposes, I would switch to a different approach. But that's perfectly smooth for printing, and a very compact approach that's straightforward to reason out.
<linext>
i'll try printing another version tomorrow
<linext>
the one i made works but doesn't look as nice
<InPhase>
Unfortunately I got rid of the only equipment I had with one of these handles years ago. :) So it is of no utility to me. But it seemed like a fun exercise.
<InPhase>
Perhaps if Prusa embraces the true path of the customizer I will add this to Printables.
<linext>
prusa should hire all of you guys for regular pay
<linext>
makerbot just isn't where things are going anymore
<InPhase>
As long as I don't have to move to Prague.
<InPhase>
You ended up with a neat aesthetic there on the inner part. Probably mechanically suboptimal to have prongs on your axle piece, but it's pretty. :)
<J22>
InPhase .. and not just to third party .. there are variables which are set by others but if you dare and touch them manually - hell .. and first i was using r1 and r2 still i found that i only have to use r .. ( it is one of my early modules)
<J22>
But i think in general it is difficult for others to grasp how one has intended the workflow or how to use it - like in the expensive CAD systems
<J22>
The problem with RStern is that i have not limited variables so wrong input looks like shit as you can't make a 40 star with 20 radius edges
<J22>
but i am always in awe when i see you doing this with points and pure (direct) math
<InPhase>
Something like that final knob is after something like 20-30 math mistakes in a row trying to make it. The trick is to look at the shape of the mistakes, guess what's wrong, fix, and keep going, and keep those cycles really short and fast.
<InPhase>
Then I hide the mistakes and show the end result as if it fell from on high as a solution. :)
<J22>
"This section does not need to be read or understood to use the library." ⇐ great Ü
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<J22>
But i am doing the same .. like walking learning from fall to fall
<J22>
And the experience is that when 4 years ago i couldn't wrap my mind around functions and point clouds .. i now start to using them from time to time
<J22>
it is really learning by doing - and as PhD you just have a lot of experience of using this number things
<J22>
On the other hand i would assume it is difficult to understand with that knowledge how others without it will look at your code and just hoping it is working when they use it. At least i can merely imagine how weird my modules look for others - let alone the format it comes
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<InPhase>
J22: A fair assessment. And people do seem to react that way. I keep showing the math approaches because I think it works well once a person tries to create a bunch of them oneself. The thought process for it clicks in by doing, and then they become more readable because it's clearer where they break into pieces.
<InPhase>
So I stay on my quest to encourage people to try it. :)
<InPhase>
And one of the things I really need to try... is sleeping. Night.
<J22>
n8 Ü
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<Guest20>
hi whats the best soft wear for building a thing
<InPhase>
J22: Hmm. That's a really nice aesthetic. I think a really nice printed analog clock could be made from that if you made it 12 spokes and aligned the numbers so that they appear in the expanding diamonds. It would artistically symbolize time flowing outward from the numbers on the clock. The rotation could be done as the second hand, with one rotating spoke painted a different color.
<InPhase>
teepee: You make clocks. Make this clock. ;)
<InPhase>
J22: The other variant I was thinking of doesn't work right, so just this one.
<InPhase>
It has all the essential features of a clock except for telling you what time it is. This is left as an exercise for the reader.
<J22>
looks great .. i already thought dual color will cancle the effect but only one in color as hand is nice .. just wonder where the minutes and hour hand will go
<J22>
.. ah don't worry time is relative
<InPhase>
Probably on top would be best.
<InPhase>
It would be too busy to put the minute and hour hand behind, they would get drowned out.
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<InPhase>
For function over form, the minute and hour need to go on top, with the effect as a backdrop.
<J22>
most clockworks have the second as inner axis so hour and minutes would be between
<J22>
but using a stepper and gears would make this possible .. or a ring around
<InPhase>
Yeah, that's probably done for precision of the hour and minute hands, as it matters more there.
<InPhase>
But I think it needs to go on top for this design.
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<InPhase>
It probably couldn't use traditional clockworks anyway as the second hand is now a giant heavy bicycle wheel.
<J22>
a 24h clock would have a denser pattern so the "slow" second rotation would look faster
<InPhase>
This is a 2 AA battery clock at least.
<J22>
if using a spring to level out the torque peaks the wheel could be turned by a second hand - as it is balanced
<J22>
and well depending what dimensions you have planned for that clock Ü
<InPhase>
I only use analog clocks that are about 30cm in diameter. :)
<InPhase>
I'm all digital except one analog wall clock I keep in my living room for style, for making sure my children can tell time the traditional way, and for power outages.
<J22>
if the other pattern is running with the hour ccw you could read the hour number when it is on top (number arranged radial )
<dTal>
J22: your visualizer project has given me a nifty little idea
<J22>
that is how it should be .. inspirational Ü
<J22>
dTal (i hope you tell us when it is ripe for it)
<dTal>
it's not a secrety but I'm afraid if I say what it is it'll sap my motivation for actually making it
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<dcorbin>
When I call textmetrics, it says it is an unknown function. Is it only in an unreleased version?
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<J22>
dcorbin yes and you have to activate the feature in the nightly build
<J22>
dTal when ever you are ready Ü
<dcorbin>
:( any idea on a expected release date?
<J22>
dcorbin you can download and use the snapshot versions
<J22>
an official release is not planned at the moment and not sure what experimental features will be included then
<teepee>
by definition none, to be included in a release happens by removing the experimental flag
<J22>
but i always using dev snapshots as there are just to many improvements
<J22>
teepee are there any issues with textmetrics? was working fine for me ( may be not that easy to understand but quite usefull)
<teepee>
not that I know off
<teepee>
it's introducing the new object return value, so that can use some more feedback, but so far it looks good
<J22>
finally i could make text on a circle that has proper spacing
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<joseph_>
teepee InPhase: I just wanted to double-check that there's nothing else you need from me before GSoC contributor requests are due from orgs next Thursday. My exams are next week but after that I can work on some more issues
<teepee>
joseph_: I don't think there's anything missing at this point, it's now between the orgs and google till the announcement on 20th
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<dTal>
J22: I want to emulate the "hyperspace" effect from star wars in the form of an ornament composed of a rotating disk superimposed on a stationary disk