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<bengalih> Does anyone know how to tag metadata that contains a quote, for instance: -metadata title="The Man" but I want the tag to actually include the quotes so instead of reading (The Man) it would read ("The Man"), I have tried all sorts of double quotes and escaping, but I can't get it to do it. I know the tag can contain quotes as MP3Tag sets them.
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<furq> '"The Man"' works for me
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<secondcreek> bengalih: seems that the " character is reserved. Can you post an example of you rattempt pls?
<secondcreek> you rattempt
<secondcreek> argh
<secondcreek> your attempt
<bengalih> I've tried every combination of escaping quotes I can think of, it is no use sending all of them.
<furq> what shell is this
<bengalih> @furq pretty sure I tried that, let me try again
<bengalih> was powershell, but let me try in standard prompt as well
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<furq> well that works for me in bash
<furq> no idea what nonsense is needed on windows
<furq> this implies it should work
<bengalih> interesting, when I do it your way in a normal command shell (cmd.exe), the tag is done with single 'The Man', which is really weird seeing as those are on the outside. When I do this in the cmd.exe it does what I want:
<bengalih> title="\"Title\""
<bengalih> which makes some sort of sense.
<bengalih> But that doesn't seem to work within powershell...so at least I now know it is a shell issue
<furq> apparently ps uses ` to escape quotes for some reason
<furq> to escape doublequotes
<bengalih> yes, I'm going to try those, I don't think I did every combo of those
<furq> you could also resort to “”
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<bengalih> yeah I just tried every combination with back quote, like "`"TheMan`"" and nothing seems to work
<furq> Because PowerShell interprets smart quotation marks, like ‘, ’, “, and ”, as normal quotation marks, smart quotation marks also need to be escaped.
<furq> oh great even that doesn't work
<bengalih> I got it.
<bengalih> so disgusting
<bengalih> title="\`"Test\`""
<furq> lol
<furq> wonderful
<furq> this is why i always just install msys2 on windows
<bengalih> that's just manually typing, now I have to figure out how to like triple esacpe it in code so it outputs the right string
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<secondcreek> bengalih: funny enough sometimes switching to a US-en keyboard will remove that headache in certain cases.
<secondcreek> `' ’ " “
<secondcreek> lol so it takes 6 extra characters to put a word in "quotes"
<secondcreek> now try a regex on that
<bengalih> I'm on a US-en keyboard, so that wasn't the issue
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<noobaroo> in mkvmerge there is the option --disable-track-statistics, is there something similar in ffmpeg?
<noobaroo> Right now i use -map_chapters -1 and -map_metadata -1 but this seems to just disable copying of existing metadata, but then ffmpeg will go on to create its own
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<another|> Since ffmpeg doesn't create track stats, no
<Marth64> ffmpeg will add the encoder tag and carry over some very few tags (handler from mp4 i believe) but no stats
<Marth64> (even with -map_metadata -1 handler tag is carried)
<noobaroo> The 'Encoder' metadata I don't really mind, i like knowing that its created by ffmpeg or by mkvmerge. But the per-track 'Duration: ' metadata i really would like to get rid of
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<Marth64> -map_metadata -1 should remove it
<noobaroo> It doesn't
<Marth64> i see. probably the muxer is adding it
<Marth64> have you tried forcing it off with -metadata:s:0 "DURATION="
<noobaroo> And the source file doesnt even have it so it's ffmpeg creating it. The only way to get rid of it is to use gpac or mkvmerge, that ive found so far. But ffmpeg is handy for so many things. Its better in almost every other area, other than this one small annoyance
<Marth64> s/0/your stream number
<noobaroo> Thanks, ill try that
<Marth64> sure, if its global tag drop the :s:0 part
<noobaroo> i have three tracks, the video, audio, and 1 sub. I tried -metadata:s:0 "DURATION=" -metadata:s:1 "DURATION=" -metadata:s:2 "DURATION="
<noobaroo> It didnt do anything. Maybe a space is needed ? Like "DURATION= "
<noobaroo> What does the `s` stand for in `-metadata:s:1` ? I just read on reddit that they used `-metadata:s:a:0` and `-metadata:s:s:0` so it doesnt mean `subtitles`
<Marth64> the first s stands for stream specifier
<Marth64> can I ask why is duration tag an issue
<noobaroo> It's just aesthetic preference, with 3 tracks its only slightly annoying, but with multiple languages and subs, it's more annoying
<noobaroo> I probably wouldnt care if I hadnt gotten used to mkvmerge --no-track-statistics option
<Marth64> if its really an annoyance you can clean it up after the remux with mkvpropedit
<Marth64> mux/encode with ffmpeg then use mkvpropedit to rip out the tag
<noobaroo> Will that basically remux the container again or will it edit in place ?
<Marth64> it will edit in place
<noobaroo> The reason im not using mkvmerge to do it is because ffmpeg has matroska options -reserve_index_size and -cues_to_front
<Marth64> i use it to add IETF language/locale tag which ffmpeg does not support yet on matrodka
<Marth64> i would leave the duration tag alone id it was me
<Marth64> s/id/if
<Marth64> bigger battles to fight
<noobaroo> For some reason my TV will not support seeking on a partial mkv file even though it does on a partial mp4 file (with moov at top). It could just be a "my TV" thing. i havent actually confirmed that ffmpeg matroska options make any difference yet
<Marth64> generally -cues_to_front has helped me with compatibility issues
<noobaroo> so I was right that mkvmerge doesnt do this?
<Marth64> i don't know the internals of mkvmerge
<Marth64> i generally only use ffmpeg
<noobaroo> Where can i see the IETF language/locale tag and how is it different from the language tag that ffprobe shows ?
<furq> do you actually need -reserve_index_size or -cues_to_front with mkvmerge
<furq> it doesn't need the former and i'm pretty sure the latter is the default
<furq> you only need to reserve index space if you don't know the stream properties ahead of time
<furq> which a dedicated remuxer always does
<noobaroo> Then maybe the TV thing is just a feature it lacks. It doesnt support subs in mp4 files so it might have other quirks also, like this one
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<Marth64> mp4 is bad format
<Marth64> sadly it is the universal one
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