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<jamrial> durandal_1707: lies, cs:go is gone and replaced with cs2
<durandal_1707> rix: you will need --enable-parser=mlp
<durandal_1707> jamrial: AI is not limited by Earth censorship
<rix> test doesn't run after this http://ix.io/4McC
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<durandal_1707> rix: --enable-demuxer=truehd for raw .thd
<durandal_1707> for non-thd files, mp4/mov/ts will need enabling that demuxers too
<rix> i see
<durandal_1707> and muxers for hashes testing
<durandal_1707> so it does not hurt to enable .wav .pcm decoders/encoders too
<durandal_1707> as that compiles really fast
<durandal_1707> so kee those pcm* entries from my link i posted here
<durandal_1707> *keep
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<rix> ok recompile and test now takes about 20 sec
<rix> any tips to setup gdb for debugging a test case?
<durandal_1707> on reasonalby modern machine, >16GB ram SSD disk, 8 cores, new compile with full features takes 2 mins
<durandal_1707> i do not use gdb that much (unless I need to RE something special) I just use, -fsanitize=address,undefined
<durandal_1707> or -fsanitize=integer with clang
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<durandal_1707> also used to use valgrind a lot, but recently it breaks with archlinux so i removed it
<rix> shame that I like to step through code a lot
<durandal_1707> with gdb only? when i need to single step i use gdb gui
<durandal_1707> but that is very rare
<rix> I think I messed up a bit field length somewhere but not sure which
<rix> reading the test err out is not very helpful
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<jdarnley> Finally! Only took me 4 hours. Fucking subtitle shenanigans. Should copy whatever mpv does rather than hard-coding all this
<Lynne> yup, mpv is the best documentation
<cosminaught> as long as you build with --disable-optimizations and run ffmpeg_g (with debug symbols) debugging should be very straight forward in your favorite debugger interface
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<rix> i figured it out. i just need to append V=1 to test command to show the full command invoked, and I can then run it in gdb
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<rix> strange. my change passed the fate-truehd-core-bsf test (with atmos.thd sample) but failed fate-truehd-5.1 (with truehd_5.1.raw sample)
<rix> what's this .raw format?
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<jamrial> rix: it's a raw mlp/truehd stream
<rix> it doesn't start with a major sync though
<rix> kind of strange but i figured out what's wrong with gdb
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<Lynne> what was the reason for lavf/lavc needing packet data padding?
<Lynne> SIMD?
<Lynne> or overread protection
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<wbs> Lynne: bitstream reader overreads iirc
<JEEB> yea
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<j-b> good morning
<durandal_1707> j-b: welcome abroad
* another| pours coffee on j-b
* j-b thanks another|
* durandal_1707 dumps j-b into trash can
* j-b stabs durandal_1707
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<cone-787> ffmpeg Paul B Mahol master:4adb93dff05d: avfilter/asrc_afirsrc: fix by one smaller allocation of buffer
<JEEB> kierank: btw have you ever seen something like a single PID radio channel just not receiving actual 24 hours of content over a 24 hour period. like a drift of ~1.7 seconds per 24 hours
<kierank> 1.7/86400*1e6 = 19.6ppm
<kierank> so perfectly legal
<JEEB> heh, so encoders should somehow be padding that or so? to make 24 hours into 24 hours?
<kierank> time is relative
<kierank> in the encoder clock that is fine
<JEEB> and basically anyone receiving that for a few hours won't notice, but then when you're receiving such a thing over days you drift more and more with the content time behind expected time
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<JEEB> fun to know that it's legal
<JEEB> also +1 point to the "don't utilize/trust content time line for output" bin
<JEEB> kierank: is that the mention in H.222 of 3ppm/0.1Hz per second mentioned by SMPTE for NTSC?
<kierank> It's in the definition of the pcr
<JEEB> thanks
<JEEB> the broadcast area keeps surprising me as usual, although I've already gotten used to having to generate a different output from input, even if the source would on a high level look pristine DTS/PTS wise
<courmisch> is Valerii Zapodovnikov the same person that was trolling here earlier?
<JEEB> yes
<JEEB> valzapod is his other nickname
<courmisch> okay so he's active in VLC and placebo too
<JEEB> yea
<JEEB> and many other projects which haven't banned him yet
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<zadedfqul> and you will not be able to ban me
<zadedfqul> You want the Moscow trollfarm?
<zadedfqul> You will get it
<zadedfqul> Just do not forget I own copyright in ffmpeg too.
<JEEB> implying someone here asked for it. you're the one behaving how you are. maybe you feel you're completely OK, but alas that is not a view shared by many. maybe you're much better IRL, but no-one here has had the chance of experiencing that.
<zadedfqul> BTW, I really am surprised. I helped you trac progress as Balling and now that is what I get? LOL, maybe start with trac then, Biden libtard voters. Is the Russian collusion in the room with right now?
<zadedfqul> *with us
<zadedfqul> courmisch I am active also on wireshark, libtorrent
<zadedfqul> gnuradio (was), rtl-sdr project, all Intel libraries, clang now too.
<zadedfqul> Are you going and try to ban be there too? You will lose. Just like Biden lost the election, admit it
<zadedfqul> BTW, banning all VPNs is nice. Are you using same filter as wikipedia? Cool. But again, github servers do no use VPNs, they are real. And so are all different virtual machines.
<zadedfqul> Oh, and I web.archived that discussion on github
<zadedfqul> on vlc's gitlab, I mean
<microchip_> Biden lost the election, can you LOL???
<microchip_> another maroon
<zadedfqul> JEEB: I am the same in real life, BTW. You just cannot ban a person in real life, only kill. Like that woman that said All lives matter in USA.
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<elenril> pls do NOT engage the troll
<courmisch> I blame TypX this time, but he did not "know"
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<wsqacadq> Banning is also engaging, Anton
<wsqacadq> Just like your knowledge in top posting.
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<BBB> man that dude is persistent :)
<elenril> does he not have something better to do with his life
<courmisch> takes commitment to contract a VPN just for trolling opensoars
<courmisch> or maybe it's provided for official Mordor public service use
<BBB> :)
<BBB> we'll keep banning the balling
<BBB> every time I saw that, I hear the dwarfs from the hobbit
<JEEB> courmisch: to be honest the location from which a person is does not matter at all
<JEEB> s/is/comes/
<elenril> untrue
<elenril> were he from a civilized country, we could use their law enforcement services
<JEEB> yea, but someone being an asshole or troll is not is a person problem
<JEEB> asdf
<courmisch> I was alluding to troll farms. Not every country has them, especially not on the scale of the Russian federation
<JEEB> *is* a person problem
<courmisch> obviously some devs over there are reasonable people
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<ukrainesucks> BTW, Trump just needed 44000 votes to win
<psykose> i thought you said he won? be consistent
<ukrainesucks> And so as there are up to a million ballot that were not observed he really did win.
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<elenril> psykose: i mean it
<elenril> do NOT engage the troll
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<ukrainesuccxxks> Also, Clinton was fined for Steele dossier
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<courmisch> +r already
<elenril> nah
<BBB> I'm personally fine with +r
<BBB> but if others object I won't insist on it
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<elenril> I don't think it's anywhere bad enough to require +r
<elenril> (yet?)
<bsbsvsvsv> Clinton was found to be using gmail
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<BBB> (maybe that was too early, apologies if it was :) )
<q66> 99.9% not
<elenril> i wish it was feasible to all of russia
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<dbbsbsbs> And also Comey lied when he said not even gmail
<dbbsbsbs> Judicial watch almost deposed Clinton in that case
<dbbsbsbs> BTW, Trump never withold aid to Ukraine, it was released by the end of fiscal year 30 September, Javelins were not part of aid: they were bought by Ukraine, and also Zelensky mentioned Biden first.
<dbbsbsbs> Eric Ciaramella knew Igor Danchenko. Yep. Youtube still bans comments with Eric Ciaramella in it.
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<jamrial> he had a wall of text in the clipboard, lol
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<lpllpllp> George Floyd was a porn star with actual video still online, he was COVID infected, had a genetical blood deasese and also a tumor and a bad heart. Is not thay funny? Oh, and also he was in prison like 8 times. And he died in the ambulance.
<lpllpllp> ALEX Soros actually was behind some of the six labs in Wuhan, China, his WuXi Apptech company actually did GOF research in furin cleavage site in those labs. Also, we in Russia say sorosyata for all people in Ukraine in key positions and Voice party of Rada is called Voice of Soros.
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<andrewprinceisam> Wirelogic Technology AS (Nr. 96237)
<andrewprinceisam> Digitex organization LLP OC360657, UK
<andrewprinceisam> Bohai Harvest RST (BHR)
<andrewprinceisam> Devon Archer, Hunter Biden, Alan Apter, Aleksander Kwasnewski
<andrewprinceisam> Stephan Halper (Source 2) and Crossfire Typhoon (George) Source 1 Steele a.k.a as sub-source
<andrewprinceisam> CHS #3/Source 3 recently identified as Jeffery Wiseman.
<andrewprinceisam> CarterHeavyIndustries@gmail.com positive Subpoena
<andrewprinceisam> Christopher Steele is noted as “Source #1”.  Glenn Simpson of Fusion-GPS is noted as “identified U.S. person” or “business associate”; and Perkins Coie is the “U.S-based law firm.”
<andrewprinceisam> https://ccrecorder.org/recordings/get_doc_by_id/450305949/ October 29 2016 28 reopening MYE
<andrewprinceisam> February 19 2017
<andrewprinceisam> Franklin Templenton Investements
<andrewprinceisam> SSA 1 Pietka
<andrewprinceisam> Att2 Kevin Clinesmith
<andrewprinceisam> Att1 Lisa Page
<andrewprinceisam> Somma case agent 1
<andrewprinceisam> Person 1/Source E/Sergei Millian Source 6 (ex Siarhei Kukuts)
<andrewprinceisam> Crossfire Latitude Donald J. TRUMP (just proposed)
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<BBB> elenril: let me know when you're ready for +r :)
<jamrial> just set +r
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<mmmmmmmmmmmmmnnn> BTW, you will get all FBI raided for this info, probably
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<BBB> oddly, my UI has no way of setting +r :)
<BBB> I know what response I'm going to get to that
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<BBB> tnx
<BBB> how often do we clean up the banlist? :)
<elenril> boo
<BBB> just for a few days... hopefully
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<balling> Copyright (c) 1996 Microsoft Corporation
<balling> Module Name:
<balling>     faxdoc.cpp
<balling> Abstract:
<balling>     This module contains all code necessary to print an
<balling>     exchange message as a fax document.
<balling> Author:
<balling>     Wesley Witt (wesw) 13-Aug-1996
<balling> Revision History:
<balling>     20/10/99 -danl-
<balling>         Connect to appropriate server, get basenote from windir
<balling>     dd/mm/yy -author-
<balling>         description
<balling> --*/
<balling> #include "faxxp.h"
<balling> #include "emsabtag.h"
<balling> #include "mapiutil.h"
<balling> #include "debugex.h"
<balling>         }
<balling>         nFaxNumberCpm = _tcscmp(lpcRecipient1->lptstrFaxNumber, lpcRecipient2->lptstrFaxNumber);
<balling>         if(nFaxNumberCpm < 0)
<balling>         {
<balling>             bRes = true;
<balling>         }
<balling>         else if(nFaxNumberCpm == 0)
<balling>         {
<balling>             //
<balling>             // The fax numbers are same
<balling>             // lets compare the names
<balling>             //
<balling>             if(lpcRecipient1->lptstrName && lpcRecipient2->lptstrName)
<balling>             {
<balling>                 bRes = (_tcsicmp(lpcRecipient1->lptstrName, lpcRecipient2->lptstrName) < 0);
<balling>             }
<balling>             else
<balling>             {
<balling>     LPTSTR PrinterName,
<balling>     DWORD Level
<balling>     )
<balling> Routine Description:
<balling>     Gets the printer data for a specific printer
<balling> Arguments:
<balling>     PrinterName - Name of the desired printer
<balling> Return Value:
<balling>     Pointer to a printer info structure or NULL for failure.
<balling> --*/
<balling> {
<balling>     DBG_ENTER(TEXT("CXPLogon::MyGetPrinter"));
<balling>     PVOID PrinterInfo = NULL;
<balling>     HANDLE hPrinter = NULL;
<balling>     DWORD Bytes;
<balling>     PRINTER_DEFAULTS PrinterDefaults;
<balling>     PrinterDefaults.pDatatype = NULL;
<balling> Microsoft Server 2003 source code. Lets go. Everyone who sees it cannot pull code in many projects
<balling> Oopsie
<balling> You are all now forever tained.
<balling> *tainted
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<q66> looks like +r did not help?
<BBB> well, balling is a registered nick
<q66> right exactly
<BBB> that's how he started :)
<courmisch> well yes but if the nick is banned, then +r works
<BBB> that should help a bit
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<courmisch> not until he gets bored of registering new nicks
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<microchip_> puto!
<microchip_> BBB: make it temporarily invite only
<elenril> I'm waiting for someone to suggest moving to discord
<courmisch> any comments on the RV checkasm SIGILL catcher?
<courmisch> I'll take that as a no
<BBB> aren't you the rv expert now?
<courmisch> it's checkasm code though
<courmisch> also RV expert sounds like I know ***t about hardware and VHDL
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<courmisch> elenril: TBH, IRC is a craptastic protocol. Why do I need a screen or a tmux to see past convos and to receive messages when I'm not looking
<elenril> somehow all attempts to design something unambiguously better than IRC have failed in various ways
<courmisch> that's just Stockholm syndrome and network effect
<elenril> almost as if design-by-hubris is not a good approach
<courmisch> I guess the commit bot is censored now
<elenril> what protocol would you say is unambigously better than IRC?
<courmisch> the one that I would have designed if I had time and the network effect did not apply
<elenril> i.e. there isn't one
<courmisch> more like I have very little experience with alternatives
<elenril> feel free to take my word for it
<courmisch> which word? you have so many
<elenril> 18:04:01 @elenril | somehow all attempts to design something unambiguously better than IRC have failed in various ways
<courmisch> that's more than a dozen different words
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<courmisch> ooh, electricity at -0.5€/kWh tomorrow
<courmisch> now that is cheap
<courmisch> or it would be if I had spot price
<psykose> spot pricing just seems like gambling tbh
<courmisch> it's not gambling. it's betting if the Siemens quality german engineering at OL-3 reactor will fail or not tomorrow
<psykose> :D
<courmisch> but eh, reactor built on French tax payers' dime, I cna't complain
<j-b> actually, you can.
<j-b> It's always possible to complain.
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<courmisch> I meant that I can't complain about the price
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<clintoncrfm> Oops, second gmail account.
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<Gramner> courmisch: oh, ffmpeg doesn't have the signal catching code? just copy it from dav1d if not, as afaik it should work on all platforms and architectures
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<alexsorosfaker> Oh, I can drop and resgister new nick on email email? Oh.
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<haasn> I was wondering whether there was a way to just temp ban kiwiirc, but probably what you did ends up as the same
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<mindfreeze> all the hard-work to login just for getting hate, humans are amazing (if it is a human)
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<githubsucks> Sucks, it does, does not it? They removed my clang issue!
<haasn> courmisch: drive electric car, get paid to charge
<githubsucks> Haasn, it is not about kiwirc
<githubsucks> Drive electric car, still cannot use nuclear energy in germany to power it.
<githubsucks> BTW, are you aware you are all logged, right?
<githubsucks> mindfreeze: I am not a human now? 🙃 WTF
<githubsucks> mindfreeze: you can atill use gmail.com account, okay?
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<elenril> BBB: a bit too wide, don't you think?
<BBB> hm... ok
<BBB> he had ukrainesucks as nick earlier
<BBB> but we can just keep banning one account at a time, +r does add some significant overhead on his side
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<BBB> /16 is a pretty wide mask o_O
<elenril> don't irc from shady hosting companies
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<PaulandAntonsuck> Seriously
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<elenril> what did paul ever do to him
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<BBB> I'm guessing he's jealous that paul gets nominally more lattitude in terms of behaviour than him
<haasn> does he?
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<BBB> in the pst, nicolas and paul have gotten into conflict situations that I don't think are ideal
<BBB> and paul is a valuable programmer, but his manners are worse than a toddler at times
<BBB> I would know. I've had toddlers
<jamrial> BBB: most of the ips he's using are from hosting companies, not ISPs
<BtbN> Use ChanServ for bans like that, and set a timeout
<jamrial> at some point libera staff should get involved, since he's registering nick after nick for the sake of harassing one channel
<elenril> BtbN: i don't have permissions for chanserv
<BtbN> If you have op here, chanserv should let you akick
<elenril> >ChanServ: You are not authorized to perform this operation.
<BtbN> weird, we must have messed up the initial access list then
<BtbN> There just seems to be no flags for that. Other than full access list access
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<Traneptora> but why tho
<Traneptora> what did we do that makes that one person not like us
<elenril> mental issues
<BradleyS> that's the thing with narcissists, it's not about you
<BradleyS> make the channel moderated (voice required to speak), make chanserv auto-voice the regulars, set channel topic to "request voice in #ffmpeg" (or wherever) for everyone else
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<jess> hey, libera chat staff here, need some help?
<BradleyS> just a suggestion that's worked in the past
<elenril> hey jess, we have a persistent troll evading bans
<elenril> seems to be making new accounts too
<BtbN> The latest set of bans seems to be effective at least
<Traneptora> BradleyS: that works in the short-term until they get bored, ig, but then they'll probably start trolling #ffmpeg instead then
<elenril> for entire ~25 minutes
<BtbN> he's already appeared in #ffmpeg, which makes me think whatever we did here worked
<Traneptora> it's a federal holiday today in the United States so maybe he's an american with too much time on his hands
<jess> lucky for us i'm british and have a lot of free time today
<elenril> he has a russian name and his original IP addresses were from moscow
<jess> is he upset that there's a but he wants you to fix that you haven't yet fixed
<haasn> actually, yes
<elenril> he's been banned from multiple other FOSS projects afaik
<jess> lol
<jess> haasn: i guessed from the nicknames
<BtbN> More like... every bug he could find
<haasn> he's been banned from the mpv orgo on github for years
<elenril> and he's been trolling our bugtracker for a very long time
<Traneptora> it's not the same guy as ZaquL is it
<JEEB> Traneptora: I think that's same
<another|> jess! Our favourite sandcat! How did you get here? Watching bans?
<jess> saw some account registrations that looked weird and noticed they were seemingly being used in #ffmpeg
<jess> the names of the accounts seemed indicative of harassing *someone*
<another|> I see. Watchful sandcat :)
<jess> ^^
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<j-b> elenril: gg
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<rix> is there any good reading material to understand the correlator, matrixing, and quantiser used in mlp?
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<durandal_1707> correlator is just linear transform, same as matrixing, just need to be lossless and reversable
<durandal_1707> and quantizations sets limits for those
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<rix> so each primitive matrix would combine a number of encoded channels, apply linear transform, and output the decoded channel?
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<durandal_1707> yes, but note that its affine transform too, so one can not just use simple inverse
<rix> so the atmos.thd sample in FATE has 2ch + 2 matrices in substream 0; 4ch + 4 matrices in substream 1; 2ch + 8 matrices in substream 2; and 4ch + 8 matrices in substream 3
<rix> I just want to understand how these matrices should be used to produce the decoded channels
<durandal_1707> yea, i got that far when improving encoder, i failed to understand how substreams are combined when matrixing
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<rix> from the current ffmpeg mlp code, it seems we are using the matrices from the max substream available and ignoring the rest
<rix> i guess it's how dolby does easy downmix for low end decoders
<rix> but that doesn't apply to the 4th substream obviously
<durandal_1707> rix: you already have code that gives 4th PCM samples?
<rix> i reversed the part that can give me the 4th matrices and entropy decoded internal channels
<rix> to get PCM still need to do all the decorrelation, matrixing, quantizing and some shifting
<rix> also reversed the EMDF packed OAMD metadata
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<durandal_1707> https://0x0.st/HwLY.png