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<pross>
an i push changes to master against 'version <next>:' in Changelog now that 6.1 release branch has been made?
<pross>
*can
<Lynne>
yes
<pross>
thanks!!
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<cone-143>
ffmpeg Peter Ross master:10869cd84950: avcodec: LEAD MCMP decoder
<pross>
that should quell elon musk for awhile
<aaabbb>
pross: the guy on the trac who keeps begging?
<pross>
i am not sure who he/she really is :P
<aaabbb>
me either but the name stood out to me of course xD
<pross>
i associate elon with paul for some reason
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<Lynne>
ml seems dead, can't see my mail sent back or on the webpage
<frankplow>
Lynne: Ditto
<Lynne>
rip
<JEEB>
:<
<cone-143>
ffmpeg Zhao Zhili master:5a2ca4bf7a3f: MAINTAINERS: add myself as a mediacodec and videotoolbox maintainer
<courmisch>
so the Emergency Committee to Safeguard the FFmpeg Code of Conduct has temporarily suspended the mailing list until good order is restored under sensible leadership
<aaabbb>
courmisch: is this because of the recent stuff with heinkal or whatever his name is?
<durandal_1707>
huh?
<aaabbb>
durandal_1707: there was some drama on the ml recently
<durandal_1707>
drama is in every thread
<durandal_1707>
so you need to be more specific
<kierank>
lol
<aaabbb>
it mustve gotten worse since i was last on
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<Lynne>
"<ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>: host ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org[79.124.17.100] said: 451 4.3.5 <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>: Recipient address rejected: Server configuration problem (in reply to RCPT TO command)"
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<wbs>
I've heard that it's easy to know who administers this stuff, allegedly it's written in MAINTAINERS - is someone from there reachable and responsive now?
<Lynne>
Baptiste Coudurier, not in irc, someone should send him a mail
<Lynne>
(or don't, we can use the opportunity to switch to gitlab)
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<courmisch>
somebody suffers acute forkitis?
<durandal_1707>
rotfl
<kurosu>
Not sure Baptiste dabs anymore in maintaining a fork. Or maybe he really does on the side, but I wouldn't bet on it
<JEEB>
he has his broadcast niche so if it brings income it makes sense. but ffmbc is nothing new
<durandal_1707>
last version release when?
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<thilo>
Lynne: ML still dead for you?
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<Lynne>
just me? it's dead for everyone
<Lynne>
tried again just now, still dead
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<durandal_1707>
FFmpeg officially dead
<Lynne>
it's just resting
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<elenril>
frankplow: did you intend to do something with REPX?
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<frankplow>
elenril: I have some assembly that's written with it, I don't mind writing it out by hand if people aren't a fan though.
<elenril>
no, I'm just wondering if I should push it
<frankplow>
elenril: Would be nice for me. I looked at updating our entire x86inc.asm to match x264's as they have a fair few fixes and improvements there, but ours has diverged a little so it's not trivial iirc.
<cone-177>
ffmpeg Henrik Gramner master:ed8ddf0bd3b1: x86inc: Add REPX macro to repeat instructions/operations
<courmisch>
The True Upstream
* courmisch
mumbles something about what it sayss that you need $(ISA)asm.inc at all
<Lynne>
you wouldn't know what it's like with it
<Lynne>
not to mention how good nasm is already
<courmisch>
I probably don't want to know
<kurosu>
JEEB: I wouldn't think a "Senior Director of Engineering" at a major broadcaster does that kind of things
<JEEB>
kurosu: I haven't looked into his work environment changes :)
<JEEB>
also just so we're perfectly clear: I definitely did not want to make it seem as if I thought ffmbc had anything to do with the mailing list breaking :P
<JEEB>
just noting that the last I knew ffmbc was a thing. never looked into its details since it was GPL
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<cone-177>
ffmpeg James Almer master:b4169760b0d5: avutil/channel_layout: add a 7.2.3 channel layout
<cone-177>
ffmpeg James Almer master:04e53927ad8d: avutil/channel_layout: add a 9.1.4 channel layout
<cone-177>
ffmpeg James Almer master:b82957a66a72: avutil: bump minor version after recent commits
<durandal_1707>
FFmpeg democratic republic overtaken by migthy LEADER and banned all community members.
<Gramner>
frankplow: yes, updating it to match upstream (which got split out from x264 to a separate repo some time ago) would be useful. not idea if ffmpeg has any meaningful local changes that should be upstreamed
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<Lynne>
rep_ret removal?
<JEEB>
fun, DVB subtitles that FFmpeg can't decode
<courmisch>
durandal_1707: Capitalist pigs don't understand. The Democratic People's Republic of FFmpeg has been made Harmonious Again by the wise leadership of the FFmpeg Worker's Party, by removing the Corrupt Elements spreading Decadent Western Ideology.
<thardin>
webrtc demuxer eh?
<thardin>
I've been working with (read: against) it recently. I forsee gnashing of teeth
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<durandal_1707>
courmisch: Clueless devs don't understand. The Democratic People's Republic of FFmpeg has been made Great Again by the wise leadership of the single FFmpeg developer, by removing the Corrupt LibAV Spies spreading numerous fragile solutions and hacks across FFmpeg codebase.
<Traneptora>
wat
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<JEEB>
let's see whether this stuff is actually something that our DVB subtitle decoder doesn't support, or if the people providing me input are passing it encrypted or something
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<durandal_1707>
JEEB: there is some patches on ML about something similar but without actual samples
<JEEB>
I'm just staring at the input in DVB Inspector and I'm seeing 0x00 :D does this thing actually have valid packets...
<durandal_1707>
[PATCH] lavc/pgssubdec: Correct rendering of palette updates.
<JEEB>
yea that's PGS
<JEEB>
I could check at some point when I have headroom whether that seems to match specs
<JEEB>
but you did good to ask for a sample
<JEEB>
yup, just verified that all of the dvbsub packets are 1 byte long and contain 0x00
<JEEB>
cool stream there
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<JEEB>
yea that isn't valid
<JEEB>
PES data for DVB subtitles should start with 0x20
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<JEEB>
of course we expect the packet to start with 0xf which is a subtitling segment
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<elenril>
did anyone ping michaelni?
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<cone-177>
ffmpeg Anton Khirnov master:88f9164f97bb: doc/community: update the rules according to voting results
<cone-177>
ffmpeg Anton Khirnov master:2b4035d1dc57: doc/community: improve wording
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<courmisch>
durandal_1707: Clueless devs must be capitalist pigs. It all adds up.
<courmisch>
elenril: noooooooo! we finally had a break from all the dram
<courmisch>
elenril: and a perfect excuse for me not to make CC candidacy, since I can't run my campaign
<courmisch>
also where are the checkasm AC3 tests that I required yesterday! IRC is ignoring my commands!!!!
<kierank>
ffmpegGPT
<courmisch>
writing unit tests with generative AI. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong
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<courmisch>
FFmpeg's git Perl script importing SSH's environment does not sound very secure to me
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<courmisch>
Lynne: I think Opus deemp is no go. Best I get is 12% worse than scalar
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<kurosu>
> which got split out from x264 to a separate repo some time ago
<kurosu>
that sounds like it could become a git submodule of different projects
<JEEB>
yea. it's been like that for a few years now
<JEEB>
just to make it simpler to figure out for people who otherwise would go ewww gpl
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<Gramner>
are git submodules a reasonable thing to use nowadays? last time i looked into it was like 5+ years ago and the general consensus at the time was that it's horrible and to stay away from it
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<courmisch>
Gramner: were they improved?
<courmisch>
Gramner: I would expect that for backward compatiiblity with whatever uses them, they don't change and thus suck
<courmisch>
that said QEMU uses them, IIRC
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<durandal_1707>
RVV spam
<courmisch>
at least it's not libavgstreamer^Wlibavfilter spam
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<courmisch>
and RV is The Glorious Future
<courmisch>
but it's okay if you want to stay in prehistoric god-forsaken x86 Mordorland
<durandal_1707>
RVV is fake
<durandal_1707>
like blockchain
<JEEB>
as fake as that piece of hardware which actually sits somewhere 8)
<courmisch>
on my desk
<durandal_1707>
hype is artificial
<courmisch>
wanting not to be vendor-locked to Intel, AMD or Arm is not artificial hype