15:00 <Eighth_Doctor> Hmm... https://open.substack.com/pub/semianalysis/p/ventana-risc-v-cpus-beating-next

15:39 <rwmjones|HOLS> this is interesting: https://sipeed.com/licheepi4a

15:40 <rwmjones|HOLS> Eighth_Doctor: I know someone who went to ventana from RH

15:40 <Eighth_Doctor> oh?

15:40 <rwmjones|HOLS> I think the proof will be when we get shipping hardware, any news about performance before then is speculation

15:41 <Eighth_Doctor> yeah

15:41 <Eighth_Doctor> we don't yet have an integrated RV64 port in Fedora either, so there's that :/

15:42 <Eighth_Doctor> which is a bit of a catch-22 with hardware stuff

15:43 <rwmjones|HOLS> we will do once one of these companies ship up some rackable hardware, which should happen in the not too distant future

18:40 <somlo> I wanted to install a package (abc) on my `Fedora-Developer-Rawhide-20220726.n.0` based qemu VM; since `fedora.riscv.rocks` appears to be currently down, I picked the `dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/riscv/...` link instead, but now I'm getting a bunch of conflicts and dnf wants to downgrade a whole mess of seemingly unrelated packages when I use `--allowerasing`

18:42 <somlo> davidlt[m]: any suggestions on how not to screw anything up in the attempt to install additional packages?

18:44 <somlo> specifically, abc wants `libreadline.s0.7`, but python2.7 (already installed) seems to want libreadline.so.8 (also already installed

18:49 <somlo> I might (for now, until the "upstream repo" situation stabilizes) be better off doing `rpmbuild` on SRPMs locally, as long as I have the dependencies already present (fingers crossed :) )

20:49 <somlo> well, turns out I don't have the needed dependencies locally installed, and anything I try to install from `dl.fedoraproject.org` right now tells me I have conflicting dependencies (e.g., python3-3.7.3-3.fc31 vs. python3-3.9.7-1.0.fc33)

20:49 <somlo> so I'm back to soliciting advice on what else to do or what to wait for...