dustymabe changed the topic of #fedora-coreos to: Fedora CoreOS :: Find out more at https://getfedora.org/coreos/ :: Logs at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/fedora-coreos
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<dustymabe> fifofonix: if you try out the latest `next-devel` build does it solve the `open-vm-tools` issue you were having?
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<dustymabe> njha: something like this might interest you https://typhoon.psdn.io/addons/fleetlock/
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<fifofonix> dustymabe: re ^^ I'll see about testing next-devel now (missed the message earlier)
<dustymabe> fifofonix: no worries - I only sent it 12 hours ago :)
<fifofonix> dustymabe: can i rebase an existing machine to next-devel?
<dustymabe> fifofonix: yep you can (obviously hopefully it's not a machine that you rely on heavily because it's risky)
<dustymabe> should be something like `sudo systemctl stop zincati && sudo rpm-ostree rebase fedora-compose:fedora/x86_64/coreos/next-devel`
<fifofonix> dustymabe: FAQ instructions don't extend to enabling next-devel (No such branch 'fedora/x86_64/coreos/next-devel' in repository summary)
<dustymabe> fifofonix: we use a different OSTree repo for non prod stuff
<dustymabe> try the command I pasted above ^^
<fifofonix> dustymabe: cheers, looks like that is working (yes disposable machine)
<walters> can also use `quay.io/fedora/fedora-coreos:next-devel` which isn't split out
<fifofonix> walters:🙂💥🤕 (i need to carve a day out to understand all the optionality this affords - amazing)
<fifofonix> dustymabe: open-vm-tools good in next-devel (updated https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1336)
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<adamw> despite anything you may have heard to the contrary (ahem), the F37 blocker review meeting is starting *now* in #blocker-review:fedoraproject.org
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<dustymabe> adamw: +1
<dustymabe> jlebon: got a minute to discuss https://github.com/coreos/coreos-assembler/pull/3169 ?
<jlebon> dustymabe: shoot
<dustymabe> i guess - maybe can you just explain it to me like I'm 5
<dustymabe> I don't quite understand why we hit this only on RHCOS
<jlebon> will type it in a comment
<jlebon> but actually, let me double-check something
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<jlebon> dustymabe: updated PR
<dustymabe> jlebon: will look
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<njha> dustymabe: thanks! i am aware of this but i think it doesn't handle Ceph, only Kubernetes itself :(
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<marmijo> dustymabe: kola-azure had a flake earlier for next, the rerun passed the flaked  test failed in garbage collection. Have we seen this failure before? https://jenkins-fedora-coreos-pipeline.apps.ocp.fedoraproject.org/job/kola-azure/198/
<dustymabe> marmijo: "InternalServerError" from azure - just a failed request.. don't worry about it the tests themselves passed and the garbage collection that runs in the next run will take care of anything that didn't get cleaned up this time
<marmijo> Sounds good to me. Thanks!
<dustymabe> jlebon: can we discuss https://github.com/coreos/coreos-ci-lib/pull/134 ?
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<jlebon> dustymabe: sure
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<dustymabe> we're no longer blocked on this week's releases
<dustymabe> but the concern about needing to supported older RHCOS releases remains
<jlebon> dustymabe: yeah, the denylist thing is probably easiest short-term
<dustymabe> I think the notes from our one 1:1 session where we stenciled out a basic proposal should still exist
<jlebon> that PR isn't pressing though. it was just something that could've helped catch this sooner
<jlebon> indeed. maybe something someone would be interested in picking up?
<dustymabe> did we write up an issue for it?
<jlebon> i don't think so but we should. i'll write something up
<dustymabe> "that PR isn't pressing though. it was just something that could've helped catch this sooner" -> not sure I fully understand that statement
<dustymabe> it was because we started using testISO from coreos-ci-lib that we started seeing failures, which prompted jmarrero to look into it
<jlebon> yeah, it was more a gap i noticed. CI only tests on x86_64 but actually since FCOS wasn't affected anyway it probably wouldn't have triggered in CI
<jlebon> wait, I got the backstory mixed up. this did trigger in x86_64 RHCOS in the new pipeline
<dustymabe> right
<jlebon> ok right, so in fact this is implicitly tested already by the fact that (1) metal4k only works on UEFI, and (2) we run all applicable metal4k scenarios, which includes that one
<dustymabe> it's why I had to disable testiso tests there (for now)
<jlebon> hmm, so maybe we don't need that PR after all. but it feels unintuitive that skipping metal4k tests would drop that coverage
<dustymabe> honestly I think it all kind of needs to be reworked. It's weird to me how half of the tests that get run come because of the logic baked in kola and half of them that get run come from us specifying them in testISO in coreos-ci-lib
<jlebon> yeah, it's a whole mess
<dustymabe> I think the better mode is for us to default to running all of the tests (except those that will never work on a given platform) and then use denylisting to control it better
<jlebon> the thing is that the way `testiso` is structed is combinatorial
<jlebon> it'd be overkill to run all possible combinations
<jlebon> i think this gets back to folding it into `kola run` proper, and "inline" the combinations into separate tests that declare them
<dustymabe> this ^^
<dustymabe> yes
<jlebon> i guess the inlining bit could be done before doing the `kola run` folding since that will likely require more thought put into the design
<jlebon> brb
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<jlebon> i'll create an issue for that too
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<jlebon> dustymabe: were you planning to rebase rhcos-4.11-new onto rhcos-4.11?
<dustymabe> jlebon: yeah soonish
<jlebon> i'm deep in there, so can do that if you'd like
<dustymabe> ok yeah go for it
<dustymabe> i've got a few more patches locally that I haven't pushed up
<dustymabe> was focusing on 4.10 today and then I'm going to circle back to 4.11
<jlebon> ok will do that. are we just pushing to -new or doing PRs?
<dustymabe> for the rebase of rhcos-4.11-new onto latest rhcos-4.11 ?
<dustymabe> i'd just push it
<jlebon> for new patches
<dustymabe> for new patches yeah probably PRs
<dustymabe> to make the test/devel cycle quicker I've been going around this though
<dustymabe> i.e. using forked versions of things
<jlebon> gotcha. yeah, wasn't sure if you were using -new directly for that.
<jlebon> still have to test it more, but i think i picked up all the container stuff for 4.11
<dustymabe> why don't you post up a PR and i'll suck it in and do a build
<jlebon> rhcos-4.11-new rebased
<jlebon> k will ping you when I open it
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<jlebon> dustymabe: fyi https://github.com/coreos/coreos-assembler/pull/3170, but might be too early to test in the pipeline
<dustymabe> jlebon: nice
<dustymabe> what do you mean by the `might be too early to test in the pipeline` bit?
<jlebon> i'm still testing it locally :)
<dustymabe> ahh k
<dustymabe> it might be easier to just test it in the pipeline
<dustymabe> :)
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<dustymabe> btw jlebon look at this commit for an example of how I'm marking commits as needing more scrutiny (i.e. didn't apply cleanly): https://github.com/dustymabe/coreos-assembler/commit/03c4a7468051e603dabf11568f82cbcfcd95e44d
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<jlebon> dustymabe: good point re. adding name since that won't be retained
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