jaeger changed the topic of #crux to: CRUX 3.7 | Homepage: https://crux.nu/ | Ports: https://crux.nu/portdb/ https://crux.ninja/portdb/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux/
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-pathspec: 0.11.2 -> 0.12.0
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: python3-typing_extensions: 4.8.0 -> 4.9.0
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: libsecret: 0.21.1 -> 0.21.2
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<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: chrpath: update to 0.17
<cruxbot> [opt.git/3.7]: openldap: remove dangling symlik and obsolete configure options
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: zathura: 0.5.3 -> 0.5.4
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: atuin: 17.0.1 -> 17.1.0
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: qownnotes: 23.12.1 -> 23.12.2
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<farkuhar> Is it safe to assume that a user who has pulseaudio installed will be running a pulseaudio daemon with their login session?
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<ukky> farkuhar: we should not assume that. The user might test some features in one login scenario, and use alternative features in another login scenario.
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<farkuhar> Most ports that list pulseaudio as an optional dependency will continue to work when the pulseaudio daemon is not running, but their functionality becomes more limited. If there's a port that fails to start at all, when no pulseaudio daemon is running, the port's README might be a good place to document that failure mode, rather than forcing the user to run a stacktrace.
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<ukky> in my setup mpv had issues with video playback which were not easy to figure out, when pulseaudio is not installed, but pulseaudio emulation files from apulse are present
<ukky> farkuhar: port's README should be good place to list runtime dependencies, known issues and troubleshooting
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: tenacity: added README
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<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: qownnotes: 23.12.2 -> 23.12.3
<cruxbot> [contrib.git/3.7]: csvlens: 0.3.2 -> 0.4.0
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