19:08 <jaeger> Just realized we're still running 3.6 on crux.nu... we should really update it sometime :)

19:10 <beerman> aye

19:13 <beerman> whenever we do it, we might want to work together on that to make the change to nginx/gitea maybe

19:14 <beerman> would be nice to have that going productive

19:31 <jaeger> I'd suggest maybe kernel first, then crux update and nginx... probably still more to do with gitea, right? Like it only has contrib hooks right now if I remember right

19:46 <jaeger> hrmm... and the hooks are broken due to logfile permissions, I wonder when that happened

19:46 <jaeger> Ah, not permissions, the logfiles are missing now

19:47 <beerman> definately, sounds like a good roadmap. switching to gitea shouldn't be much of a problem, i'd worry more about the mailing list and stuff

19:49 <beerman> pmwiki and stuff are easily switched, i might want to touch these configs once more for final deployment and move a few files but that should be it

19:50 <jaeger> I'll get an updated kernel built soon and reboot into that first

19:50 <beerman> then again, maybe a complete redo would be fine?

19:50 <jaeger> ok

19:50 <jaeger> We still have no remote console access but if it goes wrong for some reason I can ask Stx for help

19:50 <beerman> i am thinking about the partition sizes

19:51 <farkuhar> speaking of mailing list, did stenur's message about /root/.config/git/attributes "Permission denied" ever get resolved? It sounds like the result of a git daemon running with incorrect environment variables.

19:52 <jaeger> I looked at it briefly but hadn't had time to figure out a solution yet. It seems to be caused by start-stop-daemon switching to the git user but preserving some of root's environment

19:52 <jaeger> start-stop-daemon doesn't seem to have an option to pass environment or change to the proper user's env but like I said, only looked briefly

19:54 <jaeger> If you guys have a suggestion for a proper way to fix it feel free to suggest it... I was thinking for the short term something like a script that uses su or sudo with whatever option does the right thing regarding environment

19:54 <jaeger> wrapper script, I mean

20:22 <farkuhar> I find it amusing that stenur is complaining about the side effects of a tool (start-stop-daemon) to which he's made the majority of the commits.

20:25 <farkuhar> But anyway, the recommended flag for sudo is -H (or --set-home). Meanwhile the manpage for doas implies that the target user's environment is always imported, no extra flag needed.

20:30 <beerman> I haven't looked into that, sorry

20:30 <beerman> well, just an idea, might be as good of a chance as any, really

20:31 <beerman> no idea if exchanging the server is a viable option, really

20:31 <beerman> so what other time will we do it? but its not critical, it should be a lot better than it was anyway

20:35 <jaeger> exchanging the server? other time? I feel like I missed part of a conversation

20:38 <beerman> sorry, I mean when else would we try to rebuild it?

20:38 <jaeger> I had no specific plan in mind

20:38 <beerman> at best, I feel, if we were to exchange the hardware. which seems unlikely

20:39 <jaeger> related to partition sizes?

20:39 <beerman> thats my motivation, yeah

20:40 <jaeger> Ah... doing a full rebuild could definitely be tough without console access

20:40 <beerman> we certainly would need ask stx for local help on that one without it

20:42 <jaeger> Yeah

20:42 <jaeger> Could do it in some kind of live env, I'm sure

20:44 <beerman> basics steps can all be prepared so it should be a quick one to set us up

20:44 <beerman> just needs a bit of preperation but after that we could take over with it

20:48 <beerman> i feel like this the local part is the kind of work that i'd be open to spend a crate of beer or equivalent on to have done :D

20:50 <jaeger> heh

20:50 <jaeger> I wonder if Stx would be willing to hook up the IPMI device finally

20:50 <beerman> I write gibberish but I'm just tired. but you get the point :D

20:50 <beerman> heh :D well, that would be nice

20:51 <jaeger> I just noticed your "complete redo" comment, now the rest makes more sense

20:51 <jaeger> I'm a bit tired as well

20:53 <beerman> yeah, starting from scratch-ish always has good things to it - besides being more work than it should be