19:19 <iio7> Hi guys, I was just reading up on the Crux website about Crux and noticed that on the About page it says..

19:19 <iio7> KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) concept, applied to both the system and the development process

19:20 <iio7> The comma after "Simple,", shouldn't be there.

19:20 <iio7> The statement is, "Keep it Simple Stupid", not ", Stupid".

19:21 <iio7> The difference is that WITH the comma, the person is called stupid, which is not what it's about.

19:21 <iio7> Stupid does not refer to the user.

19:21 <iio7> > The principle is best exemplified by the story of Johnson handing a team of

19:21 <iio7> design engineers a handful of tools, with the challenge that the jet

19:21 <iio7> aircraft they were designing must be repairable by an average mechanic in

19:21 <iio7> the field under combat conditions with only these tools.

19:22 <iio7> > Hence, the "stupid" refers to the relationship between the way things break and the sophistication available to repair them.

19:22 <iio7> Direct quote.

19:22 <iio7> Anyway.. just wanted to let you know. Cheers.

19:40 <SiFuh> Hmm, doesn't make grammatical sense if the comma is removed

19:41 <stenur> he

19:41 <stenur> it is just a deformation of the word of the guy who put his cigar in mystic holes

19:42 <stenur> i mean as if engineers would CREATE such a word

19:42 <SiFuh> Not a fan of acronyms anyway

19:43 <SiFuh> Not a fan of acronyms anyway, stupid

19:43 <SiFuh> :-P

19:53 <SiFuh> I guess iio7 wants to replace the comma with the conjunction 'and'. KISAS Hmm

19:54 <SiFuh> That might belong as a persons name in an Austin Powers movie

20:57 <farkuhar> until iio7 convinces esr to change the jargon file entry, i'm inclined to let the comma remain. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/K/KISS-Principle.html

21:00 <SiFuh> I am with you on the issue

21:01 <SiFuh> Although it isn't an issue for us

21:43 <jaeger> As far as I know the original statement as coined by the Navy DOES have the comma

21:44 <jaeger> Though having said that, the internet says Johnson didn't write it that way, so I dunno

21:50 <SiFuh> Without the comma it makes no sense