00:09 <jaeger> Is there a public key for the xfce_4.16 repo? The one on crux.nu doesn't seem to be correct

00:12 <jaeger> nm, found it

03:17 <jaeger> Looks like at least mate-themes still hard depends on gtk2

05:16 <beerman> jaeger: thanks for checking up on it, bummer :/

06:13 <dlcusa> I've been scratching an itch about pkgutils the last couple days and produced an ASCII text write-up of what I hope to do.

06:15 <dlcusa> Please visit http://dlcusa.net/CRUX/pkgutils.localizations.txt if you can give 15-30 minutes of consideration about it's usefulness or other considerations.

13:40 <SiFuh> jaeger: I was thinking about the ISO awhile ago. How about an USB image that has two partitions one for booting the CRUX installation medium and a writeable partition where you can put your prebuilt ports

13:42 <SiFuh> dlcusa: Why does To have a capital T and of doesn't have a capital o :-P

13:46 <dlcusa> SiFuh, my attention to detail continues to slide. I used to be a top-drawer proofreader. Thanks for catching that.

13:46 <SiFuh> dlcusa: 3rd paragraph, last sentence.. wise?

13:46 <SiFuh> Hold on, I want to read the rest

13:47 <dlcusa> Sorry--able and wise are the two hosts I'm using.

13:50 <SiFuh> I thought you were trying to say 'in no way '

13:52 <SiFuh> This reminds me a bit of another package manager that can be used on other distros. I was talking with pedja about it last year

13:54 <dlcusa> Yes--"in no wise" is a KJVism. I really need more sleep.

13:55 <SiFuh> Never heard of it

13:55 <SiFuh> not in any degree, way, or under any condition

13:55 <dlcusa> It's a Middle English expression.

13:56 <SiFuh> It even said 'not at all' is archaic but that isn't correct because it is still common

13:56 <dlcusa> English is like that... ;-)

13:57 <SiFuh> TO be honest it is a pretty bad language.

13:57 <dlcusa> But we're stuck with it for now.

13:58 <SiFuh> Yep

14:04 <dlcusa> I've processed enough coffee to risk making the changes--done.

14:05 <SiFuh> I just messaged pedja on channel #crux to see if he remembers the package manager

14:06 <dlcusa> Thanks--that sounds interesting (though it's likely not pkgutils-based).

14:06 <SiFuh> Correct

14:28 <jue> Romster: seems that latest firefox has three new dependencies: libvpx, libwebp and libevent

14:29 <jue> I think the python dep is obsolete, builds fine here with only python3 installed

14:31 <jue> beerman: I'd suggest to add 'mv $PKG/lib/pkgconfig $PKG/usr/lib' to linux-pam

14:40 <beerman> jue: sounds good to me

14:48 <beerman> jue: any objections if i'll make changes with mesa etc to support wayland optionally?

14:49 <beerman> or would you want to do this pre 3.7 release in a 3.7 branch?

14:52 <jue> I have now objections to do it now if it breaks nothing else but I have no idea what needs to be changed at all ;)

14:53 <dlcusa> I made some minor readability changes to the localizations proposal.

15:12 <jaeger> SiFuh: should be possible, just would likely need to be a separate image as isohybrid doesn't have any intelligence like that, so to speak (at least not that I'm aware)

15:13 <SiFuh> I was thinking of removing the iso from it. So the USB image would be able to be easily used for updates and the ISO only for official releases for now.

15:18 <jaeger> Removing the ISO from it? You'd still need to keep its contents around if you wanted to boot it for installations

15:21 <SiFuh> Yeah, I was re-reading that it sounded a bit off

15:22 <SiFuh> For your updates just create the USB image and for the official create both

15:27 <SiFuh> Anyways, just an idea :-)

15:50 <beerman> Jue: no worries, I got things in my overlay 😁