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<Josh_2> hi hi!
<phoe> hi
<aeth> ih
<aeth> oh wait, that's bash, not Common Lisp
<Josh_2> eek
<aeth> if ... fi. People will do anything to avoid writing parentheses
<lieven> and to introduce irregularities. do ... od was impractical because octal dump was already a commando so it became do done
<aeth> now someone can write a reader macro that does the same thing in CL
<aeth> if and x y z dna 42 43 fi
<aeth> so much more readable
<lieven> yeah multiple-value-bind .... dn*um will be a huge hit
<aeth> rplaca l 42 acalpr
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<aeth> sadly, m-v-b and let will still have to use some parentheses
<aeth> etc.
<aeth> but, yes, you do save typing the most outer parentheses at the expense of having to type dnib-eulav-elpitlum to close the form instead.
<aeth> you can remember it as d-nib eu-lav el-pit-lum, very easy.
<aeth> maybe even IDE autocomplete it if you type )
<aeth> I guess this is, sadly, a continuation of the long tradition of thinking up clever April Fools things in the middle of April that will never make it to next year's April.
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<phoe> u-i-f-r-c is going to be funny
<aeth> Sadly, I think it only applies to macros and special forms
<aeth> e.g. with-standard-io-syntax (format t "Hello, ~A!" name) xatnys-oi-dradnats-htiw
<phoe> (with-updated-instance-for-redefined-class (instance) ...) ; the instance is antiquated once control leaves the scope
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