#commonlisp on 2025-04-15 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

00:05 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

00:08 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

00:19 surabax has quit [Quit: Leaving]

00:23 chomwitt has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

00:28 troojg has joined #commonlisp

00:32 istewart has joined #commonlisp

00:46 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

00:58 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

01:25 jason_mw has joined #commonlisp

01:25 no-name4 has joined #commonlisp

01:29 cinerion_ has joined #commonlisp

01:34 adrianbrink has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 x4d6165 has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 mcoll has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 theothornhill has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 sm2n has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 kvik has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 jasonmw has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 ello has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 mmk2410 has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 no-name has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 cinerion has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 rahmanlar has quit [*.net *.split]

01:34 no-name4 is now known as no-name

01:36 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

01:48 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

01:56 stanrifkin has joined #commonlisp

02:04 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

02:07 bitspook has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

02:10 bitspook has joined #commonlisp

02:11 mcoll has joined #commonlisp

02:11 theothornhill has joined #commonlisp

02:11 adrianbrink has joined #commonlisp

02:11 x4d6165 has joined #commonlisp

02:11 ello has joined #commonlisp

02:11 sm2n has joined #commonlisp

02:11 kvik has joined #commonlisp

02:11 mmk2410 has joined #commonlisp

02:11 rahmanlar has joined #commonlisp

02:17 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

02:38 random-nick has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

03:13 usagi_mimi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.5.2]

03:15 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

03:19 troojg has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

03:27 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

03:28 akoana has joined #commonlisp

03:31 stanrifkin_ has joined #commonlisp

03:33 stanrifkin has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

03:45 decweb has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

03:45 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

03:57 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

04:14 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

04:19 akoana has quit [Quit: leaving]

04:27 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

04:46 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

05:00 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

05:16 robin__ has joined #commonlisp

05:16 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

05:17 Pixel_Outlaw has quit [Quit: Leaving]

05:19 robin_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

05:23 erru has joined #commonlisp

05:24 veqq has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

05:26 shka has joined #commonlisp

05:26 King_julian has joined #commonlisp

05:30 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

05:47 istewart has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

05:49 pve has joined #commonlisp

05:57 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

05:58 edgar-rft has joined #commonlisp

06:03 edgar-rft` has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

06:08 mgl has joined #commonlisp

06:09 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

06:18 robin_ has joined #commonlisp

06:21 robin__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

06:31 cow_2001 has quit [Quit: ✡]

06:32 cow_2001 has joined #commonlisp

06:45 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

06:48 skeemer has joined #commonlisp

06:55 skeemer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

06:56 chomwitt has joined #commonlisp

06:57 varjag has joined #commonlisp

06:58 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

07:06 GalaxyNova has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

07:06 GalaxyNova has joined #commonlisp

07:10 GalaxyNova has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

07:14 attila_lendvai_ has joined #commonlisp

07:16 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

07:18 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

07:19 Lord_of_Life has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

07:20 Lord_of_Life has joined #commonlisp

07:30 attila_lendvai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

07:31 attila_lendvai has joined #commonlisp

07:37 seanw has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

07:37 mivanchev has joined #commonlisp

07:37 <mivanchev> hey, how can I make this work in a declare type statement?

07:38 <mivanchev> (defvar *hinting-flags* '(:normal :light :mono :none :light-subpixel))

07:38 <mivanchev> (deftype hinting-mode () `(member ,@*hinting-flags*)

07:38 <mivanchev> I get an error that hinting-flags is unbound

07:38 <mivanchev> do I have to state the values explicitly?

07:39 <beach> Wrap the defvar in EVAL-WHEN.

07:39 <beach> ... assuming they occur in the same file.

07:40 <beach> DEFVAR does not create nor bind the variable at compile time.

07:40 seanw has joined #commonlisp

07:41 <mivanchev> cheers beach :)

07:41 <mivanchev> thank you

07:41 <beach> Pleasure.

07:42 mivanchev has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

07:42 mivanchev has joined #commonlisp

07:46 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

07:47 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

08:01 bpanthi977 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

08:03 kenran has joined #commonlisp

08:05 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]

08:06 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

08:14 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

08:19 treflip has joined #commonlisp

08:21 cqst_ has joined #commonlisp

08:22 cqst has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

08:25 kenran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

08:27 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

08:27 kenran has joined #commonlisp

08:35 mivanchev has quit [Quit: Leaving]

08:40 skeemer has joined #commonlisp

08:40 mpenet has joined #commonlisp

08:43 puke has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

08:46 robin_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

08:46 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

08:47 puke has joined #commonlisp

08:56 skeemer has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

08:59 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

09:03 gorignak has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

09:05 gorignak has joined #commonlisp

09:18 <jackdaniel> reading READ-FROM-STRING now -- is there any rational reason (except from hysterical raisins), for "or one greater than" in " If the entire string was read, the position returned is either the length of the string or one greater than the length of the string. " ? https://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/f_rd_fro.htm

09:18 <ixelp> CLHS: Function READ-FROM-STRING

09:18 Perflosopher038 has joined #commonlisp

09:20 Perflosopher03 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]

09:20 Perflosopher038 is now known as Perflosopher03

09:20 robin has joined #commonlisp

09:21 chomwitt has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

09:21 younder has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

09:22 ezakimak has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

09:22 <|3b|> jackdaniel: is the reason in "notes" not rational?

09:24 <jackdaniel> |3b|: thanks! I must be tired for I have not parsed Notes section

09:24 <jackdaniel> (and yes, it is)

09:24 younder has joined #commonlisp

09:28 <|3b|> though i wouldn't be surprised if it was added for some existing implementations, which would probably count as "historical" by this point

09:29 <|3b|> if :end exists, it seems like they would have to support stopping without the delimiter anyway, and using length as default for end would mean they could just use that code path instead of fake delimiters

09:30 treflip` has joined #commonlisp

09:31 younder has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

09:32 ezakimak has joined #commonlisp

09:32 treflip has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

09:35 younder has joined #commonlisp

09:36 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

09:38 mpenet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

09:43 treflip`` has joined #commonlisp

09:44 treflip` has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

09:45 bjorkintosh has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

09:45 bjorkintosh has joined #commonlisp

09:49 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

09:50 brokkoli_origin has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]

09:53 cqst_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

09:58 ezakimak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

10:02 ezakimak has joined #commonlisp

10:02 arpunk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

10:02 emacsomancer has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

10:02 gjn has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

10:02 rselim has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

10:02 chiheisen has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 kingcons has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 greenfork has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 larme has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 whereiseveryone has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 jonlevin has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 johuck has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 artyn has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 simendsjo has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 jtbx has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 Schnouki has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 chiheisen has joined #commonlisp

10:02 pvac has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

10:02 arpunk has joined #commonlisp

10:02 kingcons has joined #commonlisp

10:02 pvac has joined #commonlisp

10:02 Schnouki has joined #commonlisp

10:02 whereiseveryone_ has joined #commonlisp

10:02 rselim has joined #commonlisp

10:02 jtbx_ has joined #commonlisp

10:02 artyn has joined #commonlisp

10:02 greenfork has joined #commonlisp

10:02 emacsomancer has joined #commonlisp

10:02 larme has joined #commonlisp

10:02 johuck has joined #commonlisp

10:02 jonlevin has joined #commonlisp

10:02 simendsjo has joined #commonlisp

10:02 gjn has joined #commonlisp

10:03 jtbx_ is now known as jtbx

10:05 chomwitt has joined #commonlisp

10:06 whereiseveryone_ is now known as whereiseveryone

10:09 brokkoli_origin has joined #commonlisp

10:18 ezakimak has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

10:19 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]

10:20 attila_lendvai_ has joined #commonlisp

10:22 ezakimak has joined #commonlisp

10:22 attila_lendvai has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

10:29 decweb has joined #commonlisp

10:32 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

10:34 chomwitt has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

10:35 pranav has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

10:37 mpenet has joined #commonlisp

10:41 random-nick has joined #commonlisp

10:46 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

10:47 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

10:49 pranav has joined #commonlisp

10:54 Ruby2 has joined #commonlisp

10:55 Ruby has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]

11:00 Equill has joined #commonlisp

11:15 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

11:27 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

11:32 qsaiyan has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)]

11:32 qsaiyan has joined #commonlisp

11:33 surabax has joined #commonlisp

11:36 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

11:38 mpenet has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

11:39 treflip`` has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

11:46 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

11:56 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

12:08 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

12:30 kenran has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

12:34 attila_lendvai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

12:39 varjag has quit [Quit: ERC 5.5.0.29.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.3)]

12:40 puercopop_ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

12:42 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

12:49 decweb has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

12:49 decweb has joined #commonlisp

12:55 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

12:59 decweb has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

13:00 decweb has joined #commonlisp

13:10 decweb has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

13:10 decweb has joined #commonlisp

13:17 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]

13:20 decweb has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

13:20 decweb has joined #commonlisp

13:25 gorignak has quit [Quit: quit]

13:25 gorignak has joined #commonlisp

13:28 veqq has joined #commonlisp

13:29 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

13:40 triffid has quit [Quit: triffid]

13:53 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

13:55 triffid has joined #commonlisp

14:04 mala has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

14:06 mala has joined #commonlisp

14:06 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

14:10 erru has left #commonlisp [ERC 5.5.0.29.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.3)]

14:22 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

14:24 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

14:39 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

14:52 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

15:03 JuanDaugherty has joined #commonlisp

15:30 zxcvz has joined #commonlisp

15:33 bpanthi977 has joined #commonlisp

15:38 skeemer has joined #commonlisp

15:43 bpanthi978 has joined #commonlisp

15:45 bpanthi977 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

15:45 bpanthi978 is now known as bpanthi977

16:09 zxcvz has quit [Quit: zxcvz]

16:16 cmack` is now known as cmack

16:18 chomwitt has joined #commonlisp

16:20 Polar_Phoenix has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

16:26 chomwitt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

16:33 Polar_Phoenix has joined #commonlisp

16:37 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]

16:40 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

16:42 JuanDaugherty has quit [Quit: praxis.meansofproduction.biz (juan@acm.org)]

16:59 varjag has joined #commonlisp

17:05 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

17:07 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

17:15 cqst has joined #commonlisp

17:17 attila_lendvai_ has joined #commonlisp

17:25 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

17:25 bpanthi977 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

17:38 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

17:42 ixelp has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

17:44 ixelp has joined #commonlisp

17:47 bpanthi977 has joined #commonlisp

18:11 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

18:23 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

18:26 Pixel_Outlaw has joined #commonlisp

19:01 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

19:06 stirl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

19:12 stirl has joined #commonlisp

19:13 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

19:25 pve has quit [Quit: leaving]

19:32 attila_lendvai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

19:34 attila_lendvai_ has joined #commonlisp

19:35 kevingal has joined #commonlisp

19:47 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

19:47 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

19:49 GalaxyNova has joined #commonlisp

19:49 gorignak has quit [Quit: quit]

19:50 gorignak has joined #commonlisp

20:16 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

20:18 attila_lendvai_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

20:28 chomwitt has joined #commonlisp

20:30 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

20:48 veqq has quit [Quit: veqq]

21:06 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

21:07 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

21:36 shka has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

21:36 markb1 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

21:49 markb1 has joined #commonlisp

21:51 dmgk has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]

21:51 dmgk_ has joined #commonlisp

21:51 dmgk_ is now known as dmgk

22:12 skeemer has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]

22:15 varjag has quit [Quit: ERC 5.5.0.29.1 (IRC client for GNU Emacs 29.2)]

22:22 nani has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

22:23 nani has joined #commonlisp

22:29 mgl has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

23:11 Lord_Nightmare has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]

23:15 mange has joined #commonlisp

23:23 reb has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

23:24 Lord_Nightmare has joined #commonlisp

23:26 bpanthi977 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

23:32 screwlisp has joined #commonlisp

23:44 King_julian has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

23:49 bpanthi977 has joined #commonlisp

23:50 luna-is-here has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

23:53 bpanthi977 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]