<McParen>
Alfr: thanks. i believe you, what i meant is that reading the word "extended" doesnt sound like something that has to be looked up.
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<beach>
McParen: As the standard mentions (https://novaspec.org/cl/1_2_Organization_of_the_Document) it is mainly a reference document and not a tutorial. It works fine for people creating Common Lisp implementations but less fine for people trying to learn the language.
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<McParen>
maybe the word "extended" should be linked to the section 6.1.1.1 to emphasize that it carries a special meaning?
<beach>
Unfortunately, we can't change the standard.
<beach>
... "unfortunately" for this situation. Not in general, of course.
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<beach>
You might convince gilberth to put in such a link in the Nova Spec.
<McParen>
i dont know, i dont use/like the novaspec because it excessively relies on (requires) javascript.
<beach>
I see.
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<gilberth>
McParen: Excessively? It's only the search function that relies on in. That's not excessive in my eyes. It's otherwise fully functional without it.
<gilberth>
A search function that the old CLHS doesn't even have to begin with.
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<edgar-rft>
still excessively for people who excessively use the search function :-)
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<gilberth>
Heh. For those I can offer an index to click though like the CLHS has it.
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<McParen>
gilberth: to be honest, after having a look at it again, "excessively" might be a slight exaggregation. i had not used it for a long time, and just remembered that i loaded it up, saw that it (the search) doesnt work without js, and then gave it up.
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<gilberth>
Sorry. I never got around to write a fallback search "CGI" that would perform the search on the web server.
<gilberth>
Especially as it won't be dynamic like my JS solution is unless I would roundtrip for each key press.
<McParen>
I think i wouldnt even tried to use the search if it was not put in the middle of the page and automatically focused to imply that it should be used that way.
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<gilberth>
It's auto focused these days. And, heh, you illustrate nicely why you should get a web site right the first time because people never revisit your site if it wasn't good.
<gilberth>
Yes, and empty query to the start page.
<gilberth>
atm the hosting is 100% static. I was thinking about making it so that http://novaspec.org/?q=make-array would work. But that would need some infrastructure on the web servere.
<ixelp>
Common Lisp Nova Spec
<gilberth>
ixelp: You're getting silly.
<McParen>
What I like on documentation pages is one page with a large fully expanded table of contents, like texinfo produces it, where I can just Strg-F around.
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<McParen>
(Strg-F around and find out, literally...)
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<gilberth>
What I want to have eventually is a left side bar (if space permits) with the toc.
<gilberth>
So that you don't need to flip back and forth all the time. Especially since some browsers don't put you exactly to where the anchor is in the glossary.
<McParen>
"Powered by CL-HTTP/70.156 (CMU Common Lisp; 0.3.9)" <-- impressive
<gilberth>
That's CMUCL 18e.
<McParen>
how old is that setup?
<gilberth>
Older than two decades.
<gilberth>
Must have been 2001 or 2002 when I set that up.