00:52 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <v_alis.is> Hi, I noticed that `Nanopc CM3588 NAS` has no minimal image anymore. Is there going to be one any time soon?

05:55 <DC-IRC> [Matrix] <werner:matrix.armbian.com> We cannot provide images in each flavor for each device and each userspace. The amount of resources would be insane and stupid. If you need a specific combination use the build framework and create it by yourself. That is what it is made for ;)

05:56 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Yes on some devices firmware updates might be frozen by default to avoid bricking. You can unfreeze via armbian-config or search for hold packages via apt and unhold them.

06:40 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ⤴️ **Pull request** to [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [EvilOlaf](<https://github.com/EvilOlaf>) - **Please review!** 👉 [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/pull/533>): *Update README.md*

06:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/documentation](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation>) by [EvilOlaf](<https://github.com/EvilOlaf>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/documentation/commit/5e8611e6ead5c8d4863c71b86fc1bcc2ebf27019>): *Update README.md (#533)*

12:12 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <v_alis.is> Hey that's ok. I asked because there was one before.

12:21 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> Will there seems to be a minimal image for edge kernel but not sure if that is what you want. both edge and vendor have their own advantages and disadvantages at this time.

13:09 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <v_alis.is> I should be ok with mainline.

13:10 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <v_alis.is> The only limitation I noticed so far is NPU. But other than that vendor or edge should be both ok

13:18 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <v_alis.is> Found it. Thank you. (`Armbian_community_24.11.0-trunk.351_Cm3588-nas_bookworm_current_6.11.5_minimal.img.xz`)

13:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <v_alis.is> Is there any reason why it isn't listed on the website? Is there way to make a PR to add it there?

15:51 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <Github> ✅ **Merged** into [armbian/build](<https://github.com/armbian/build>) by [igorpecovnik](<https://github.com/igorpecovnik>) - [Link](<https://github.com/armbian/build/commit/0de18016710178ecce853d345631742219e6eabd>): *`Automatic` board configs status synchronise*

16:21 <p0g0> I have a failed upgrade on an OP5, it hangs early in the boot sequence at busybox, but it won't accept any keystrokes. The system typically boots from nvme0n1p1 & the kernel etc is on nvme0n1p2. I can bring up the original install image from sd card. I have backed up my unique files, but would like to just fix the boot sequence if I can instead of re-installing. I have not yet tried chroot or armbian-config. Any advice or suggestions would be welcome.

18:05 <p0g0> Got it sorted, just changed the contents of /boot [/dev/nvme0n1p1] to the /boot files in the SD card that was working.

18:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i intend to improve oPi 5 support when i can, the installer borks it at present

18:55 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> installer would need to be completely reworked. we never get further then a wish 😉

18:57 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> that is the plan, i am determined to get a bootable installer working one day

18:58 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> in theory i could extend `armbian-configng`, but it'll need some bootloader-awareness

19:08 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> i think its better that this stays standalone. Its quite a big chunk of code

19:09 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> but perhaps not, need to discuss this

19:12 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> it'd be a verbatim fs-copy of the running OS, nothing fancy, but a bit neater than `dd if=/ of=/target`

19:28 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> talk to the-going (GH / forum) regarding possible traps and exceptions. he was trying to improve this last time

19:34 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i really need to get more hardware, doing this on my prod system is a pain, though i'm intimately familiar with virtualising armbian in armbian now 🤣

19:40 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> for this kind of things hw is needed, various, not just one, as there are few different methods of installing

19:41 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> but also virtualizad comes handy, at least for uefi

19:41 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> which is also not in good shape i think

19:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> it is not, it works better as a disk image than trying to use the installer

19:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i'd love to get a proper cloud-init image built one day

19:46 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> i think this is already possible, there are extensions that does that, but this is not my world

19:47 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i *think* i can just add it as a build dependency, but there's tweaks i need to make to make it a proper cloud image

19:47 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> https://github.com/rpardini/armbian-build/tree/extensions/extensions/cloud-init

19:47 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> perhaps @rpardini can give you some directions here

19:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> looks like i'd just need to change the config drive label, neat

19:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> yeah, it think everything is ready, it was just not never officially provided from armbian

19:50 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> it is in the main code https://github.com/armbian/build/tree/main/extensions/cloud-init

19:51 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i know the logical thing for me to do is create a new board(/family) and take over support for it, then write the documentation on exactly how to do this

19:51 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> or you do it for x86 and we take it from there

19:52 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> x86 is harder for me, i've got less x86 than aarch64

19:52 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> then uefi arm64 😉 LOL

19:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> which is more or less the same

19:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> if you want some older boards, PM, can donate it, have plenty of them

20:15 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> We ❤️ ARM

20:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> oh, ive been meaning to ask, don't suppose anyone's seen

20:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> ` kernel:[ 4573.659926] Internal error: Oops: 96000044 [#1] SMP`

20:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> before?

20:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> Which kernel version and which board

20:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> 5.10 LTS Orange Pi 5

20:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> armbian?

20:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i believe so

20:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> it's not currently responding 😅

20:18 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> kernel 5.10 is not available anymore on armbian

20:18 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> it may well be the pve provided kernel

20:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> please check a new kernel version, the currently supported kernel are 6.1 and 6.10

20:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> you want use it for proxmox?

20:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> it was running proxmox up until a powercut the other day

20:20 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> i can advice you to use kernel 6.10 for proxmox

20:20 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> now it runs for *some period of time* before throwing the same Oops

20:20 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> it's more stable than others kernel

20:21 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1305266162346754099/image.png?ex=67326757&is=673115d7&hm=e51398a042ca964c36d1437dd0c71c063bdaefdec15e4f2610f6a4286410094c&

20:22 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i'll have to double check when i can reboot it

20:24 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> my advice is to use the mainline kernel even if in edge, it is more optimized on virtualization than the 6.1 kernel, only thing you lose is the support of some features that are not yet integrated on the mainline kernel

20:24 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> like what?

20:25 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> https://gitlab.collabora.com/hardware-enablement/rockchip-3588/notes-for-rockchip-3588/-/blob/main/mainline-status.md

20:35 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> Can I get some help with this software that runs through terminal

20:36 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> be even slightly more specific?

20:42 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> thanks

20:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> Okay so I’m using this interpolation software called Dain, and what it does is upscale low frame rates. But to use the software you have to run it through terminal and I don’t know how any of the commands work

20:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> are you using ssh or serial connection?

20:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> ssh

20:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> I’m pretty sure

20:43 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> I’m on a Mac

20:44 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> I don't know the sw you mentioned

20:45 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1305272160511594496/Screenshot_2024-11-10_at_2.45.07_PM.png?ex=67326ced&is=67311b6d&hm=2cb6575759bd9f28ad749f868fa97d85c2a0adb8fb264ae3e156d3b4a1c9cc60&

20:47 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> you can ask on their github

20:47 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> It was last updated 2 years ago I doubt im gonna get a reply

20:47 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> they have a usage section, it's fairly self-explanatory

20:48 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> I looked at the usage section and tried to replicate the commands but I still dont get it

20:49 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> you will need at least a basic understanding of how command line operations work

20:50 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> I know how they worked I used to use linux

20:50 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> but the commands just wont run

20:50 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> but this <https://github.com/nihui/dain-ncnn-vulkan?tab=readme-ov-file#video-interpolation-with-ffmpeg> section literally contains everything you need

20:50 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> can you walk me through it real quick

20:51 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> cause im a lil lost

20:52 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> anyone here would need to spent time to study to write you walktrough

20:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> i would need a week for exampkle

20:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> so you know what you are asking

20:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i understand what it's doing, it strips the audio, splits the video into frames, processes all of them, then re-contains them, but it literally explains that

20:53 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> I understand how it works

20:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> what is the problem then?

20:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> 🙂

20:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> I cant any commands though

20:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> run*

20:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> be more descriptive

20:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> what error do you get when you run what command?

20:54 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> does `dain-ncnn-vulkan -v` work?

20:55 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> it tells me the command wasnt found

20:55 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857944478269702214/1305274726410752010/Screenshot_2024-11-10_at_2.55.32_PM.png?ex=67326f51&is=67311dd1&hm=494bb8b7729065678a3a15ff13e0798b908189252d35c0b1401e0726ad13a41c&

20:58 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> please for the love of god just copy and paste from the terminal into a codeblock, images are incredibly difficult for me

20:58 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> oh my bad

20:58 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> `jaidenallen@Jaidens-MacBook-Air dain-ncnn-vulkan-20220728-macos % dain-ncnn-vulkan -v

20:58 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> zsh: command not found: dain-ncnn-vulkan`

21:00 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> you may need to specify `./dain-ncnn-vulkan`, i don't recall the macos defaults

21:00 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> I can paste the command after I specify?

21:00 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> thats right yeah

21:01 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> you shouldn't blindly paste, and should really write a wrapper script imo

21:03 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> Why cant I just use the exact commands the usage text gives me

21:04 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> guys it's better move this to #ID:854735915787878463 thanks 🙂

21:06 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> can you just explain how I can find the source fps and format

21:07 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> like I dont know where to put a file for it to be found by the command

21:07 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> as i told you if you want proceed with this thread write on #ID:854735915787878463

21:07 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <nompyy> alr

21:10 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> confirmed that as `Linux 5.10.160-legacy-rk35xx`, i'm assuming this is an ancient legacy kernel then?

21:13 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> surely, i can advice you to make a backup of vms and migrate to kernel 6.10

21:15 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> no backup necessary, data is already considered lost, not entirely sure how to migrate to 6.10 though, `armbian-config` doesn't see any other kernel options

21:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> not do it

21:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> use a frash installation

21:16 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> and install it through proxmox port github project

21:17 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> that's a pain

21:18 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> i already do it for my cluster

21:18 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> i'll have to flash a new SD card

21:19 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> yes

21:20 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> orangepi 5 not have spi nor?

21:20 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> it does

21:22 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> use it for the bootloader and nvme for the system 🙂

21:27 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <menu> that is what i do, but i have to flash an SD card to reinstall from!

21:27 <DC-IRC> [Discord] <superkali> yes