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<terrorpup> Guys, any trick to get Chrome/Firefox to play back with the Orange Pi 5 Plus, any packages I need to install?
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<nicod_sbc> With that chromium is GPU accelerated and VPU accelerated.
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<stamasd> So nobody can suggest any libraries to use on Armbian with either PCD8544 or SSD1306-based displays? I've been searching far and wide for one such thing.
<DC-IRC>
<stamasd> There are a number of Adafruit libraries for that, but they are made for Raspi OS only and don't work on Armbian
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<rpardini> It says "HC4" but it can drive any SD1306 via i2c.
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<rpardini> Hook up your oled correctly to i2c, enable overlays/correct DTB, use `i2cdetect -l` to list i2c buses, scan each until you find it, edit the config and off you go.
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<rpardini> (in the end, it uses Python3's `luma-oled` library via i2c kernel driver, not any Rpi-specific things).
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<terrorpup> NicoD thanks will let you know how it goes
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<stamasd> @rpardini oh great thank you... I hadn't found this one. Will definitely give it a go. I tried another library I had found on github, can't remember off the top of my head, but all it gave me was printing garbled characters on the last line of the display only and nothing else on the other lines.
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<rpardini> @stamasd there's also kernel driver for sd1306, if you hook it up in DeviceTree, you can get a framebuffer (!) on it. 😉
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> man hard to sell arm units on ebay
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> and I need to sell off this t4+case+antennas+power+hdmi cable
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> + 120g nvme ssd
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<.richn> only asking 130+s&h
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<.richn> now that I am focused on the t6
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<stamasd> I don't need a framebuffer, or to display SD card stats. All I want is to have a little one-liner that shows the IP address at boot, to be used when I hook it up to ethernet with DHCP
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<.richn> cut the script down
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<stamasd> well yeah of course
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<stamasd> I can easily generate the info I need with ifconfig and awk
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<rpardini> `sys-oled` should do that, I use it for same purpose.
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<stamasd> thanks again.
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<ttttttttttttt4531> Hi , can anyone offer some advice for using armbian-config hotspot on Orange Pi 3 LTS. I have got it working several times but had to fresh install due to some other issues.
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<ttttttttttttt4531> Currently getting this error, attempting to use wlan0
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<ttttttttttttt4531> Failed to start hostapd.service: Unit hostapd.service is masked.
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<ttttttttttttt4531> Thanks.
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<tenkawa42> have you set your wifi country code?
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<tenkawa42> @ttttttttttttt4531 have you set your wifi country code?
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<igorpec> opi3 lts wifi drivers are garbage ...
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<tenkawa42> @igorpec the masked error comes from country code on most SBCs
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<tenkawa42> if you don't set it
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<tenkawa42> crda gets very angry
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<tenkawa42> this was a known problem in the broadcom days
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<igorpec> yes, that is ofc also possible
<DC-IRC>
<igorpec> but here is some chungjonk wifi chip, not broadcom 😉
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<stamasd> I always use USB wifi dongles on opis, even the ones with built-in wifi. Learned that from the opi0. The rtl8812 ones work very well.
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<igorpec> well, opi0 wifi is the worst out of all 😉
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<stamasd> you can get them under $5 on ebay
<DC-IRC>
<stamasd> the dongle only of course
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<.richn> neo3 ?
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<jason123santa> its the orange pi zero
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<jason123santa> The neo3 has the cpu on the bottom
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<terrorpup> So, I try not to use Ubuntu because every time I work with it, there an issue, it why I stay on Debian. So if those are for Ubuntu/Jammy I will wait. Seriously every time I touch Ubuntu I become the Hulk because I got to update, there a package missing that breaks every time. Also wish they stop pushing Gnome. Look no one uses hand movement, and we get that they want one UI to r <clipped message>
<DC-IRC>
<terrorpup> ule them all, but I get so much more done with XFCE/Cinnamon than Gnome.
<DC-IRC>
<terrorpup> I am going to try to see what I can get done with what I got, thanks man.
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<terrorpup> Sorry for the rant, I know every love Ubuntu, I am a loner because of the issues I have with it, I am super happy that Armbian does Debian
<JavaBean>
you aren't the only one who has issues with ubuntu. especially if you aren't using it as a desktop with only the software it came with on the installer
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<.richn> I am working to finish the debian fixes for desktops
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<.richn> then its going totake forever to get a few people to review desktops and commit them. . I got kde working
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> but I have to finish budgie and cinnamon before I do a start line commit
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<nicod_sbc> @terrorpup You do as you wish. It is just only Armbian Jammy that has a perfect desktop experience with GPU and VPU on RK3588.
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<terrorpup> I when *buntu does break then maybe, I like stable, that's Debian, experimental sure Ubuntu, remember Ubunt pulls from the Sid repo and does try to polish the packages, but I am the living Charlie Brown seem to not have go luck with Ubuntu, any way I will try
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<macerplays> Hi I own a Rock pi s and tried armbian Bookworm but sadly noticed that the performance is worse. I tested boottime and node-red restarting time because that matters to me. For Bootime measured with systemd-analyze I got an increase of ~2sec and node-red-restart a whopping increase from ~14s to ~20s. There should be a notice on the website that the current build isn't optimised ye <clipped message>
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<macerplays> t. Is this the best place to talk about that?
<DC-IRC>
<macerplays> Hi I own a Rock pi s and tried armbian Bookworm but sadly noticed that the performance is worse. I tested boottime and node-red restarting time because that matters to me. For Bootime measured with systemd-analyze I got an increase of ~2sec and node-red-restart a whopping increase from ~14s to ~20s. There should be a notice on the website that the current build isn't optimised ye <clipped message>
<DC-IRC>
<macerplays> t. Is this the best place to talk about that? Please ping when answering.
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<.richn> are you using desktop or are you using the cli
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> desktop issues should eb in armbian-desktops
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<macerplays> "Rock pi S" is the model and cli
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<.richn> slow speed could be the sd card your using
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> it could be some missining opts.
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<.richn> not a board I work on
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<.richn> but having more info helps others
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<macerplays> I actually tried multiple sd cards
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<.richn> I only use sandisk
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<.richn> never had a issue
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<macerplays> I mean the newer debian version shouldn't have worse performance
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> bookworm has alot new functions and patches in it
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<tenkawa42> That is "not" a definitively true statement
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<.richn> things changed
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<.richn> and I dont know how well the optimize the kernel for that board
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> brb have to go pick up meds
<DC-IRC>
<tenkawa42> The RK Pi S is a RK3308 which from what I am reading is last "actively supported" in Debian Buster and Ubuntu Bionic which are fairly old
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<tenkawa42> (Reading from Radxa's site)
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<tenkawa42> If you downloaded the Armbian image from there... that's "their image"... they built it not Armbian
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<Andrew161> Yeah, I literally just replaced my T4 three weeks ago and here drops the T6. I'm not ready to part with my T4 just yet but I am VERY sure I will be picking up a T6 as soon as I can.
<DC-IRC>
<tenkawa42> Either way.. Armbian images are not SoC optimized...
<DC-IRC>
<macerplays> true. On there github is bullseye available. https://github.com/radxa-build/rock-pi-s/releases But that isn't really relevant. I use the official armbian build. But was really suprised that the new bookworm build performs that much worse.
<archetech>
Machine: Type: ARM System: Radxa ROCK 5B
<archetech>
lunar w/ kde backports sweet
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> the rk3588 is still new and it uses the kerrnel src from the a old tree
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> stop bitching about the rk3588 and give us time to get thing going
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> as we are working to get the rk3588 into mainline and there is alot in the kernel missing
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> the 5.10.x kernel is old and a cludge of android and linux shoved together
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> board makers hand out very porly patched code for use
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> and we have to fix things
<archetech>
whos bitching ?
<DC-IRC>
<macerplays> The Rock pi s features a RK3308 are you talking about my performance issues? 🤔
<archetech>
must be talkin to urself
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> I have never touched the rk 3308
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> but I now that most the rk boards all need a workover for 6.3/4 kernels to clean things up
<archetech>
I want to know why theres no panfork mesa for lunar
<DC-IRC>
<macerplays> isn't that welcoming message meaning it is using Bullseye with an 6.1.11 kernal?
<DC-IRC>
<macerplays> ```Welcome to Armbian 23.02.2 Bullseye with bleeding edge Linux 6.1.11-rockchip64```
<archetech>
not very bleeding is it
<DC-IRC>
<macerplays> was stable Bullseye build
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<Tonymac32> I leave for a minute and everyone loses it. Ok RK3308 *never* really worked right in mainline, 4 different people have tried to maintain a patch set to make it tolerable but honestly it was a DOA SoC choice in a lot of ways.
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<Tonymac32> 6.1 is LTS, so all "current" labelled images use it until the next LTS is released
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> Why it says bleeding is a good question, I dont care for descriptives in the boot message since it's just marketing fluff anyway
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<rpardini> well back in January/Feb, rockchip64 had current=6.0 and edge=6.1. it was bumped last-minute before release.
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<Tonymac32> Yeah I think I remember someone f'd up and had bumped current to a non-LTS
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<Tonymac32> Should have been 5.15 or whatever
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<Tonymac32> Ok if it were an edge build it makes sense, that's the verbiage used there
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<Tonymac32> Unnecessary and unhelpful, but makes the kids with the undergo and wings on their cars happy
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> Unnecessary and unhelpful, but makes the kids with the underglow and wings on their cars happy
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<Tonymac32> 😉
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> Should say "with untested and likely buggy"
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<Tonymac32> 😆
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<archetech>
hey tony no balony
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<archetech>
I looked up making a panfork for lunar I'd need some assistance I have the pkg compiled
<archetech>
mesa
<archetech>
gotta turn that into a .deb that wont kill the system
<archetech>
no clue how icecream95/luifeng does it
<DC-IRC>
<.richn> look at debian on how to make pkgs
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<archetech>
that's like goin to college for engineering when ya just want to replace your starter
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<adventurersanonymous> I have a completely fresh install of Gnome Desktop for use on a Le Potato; I install, update; open chromium and it reboots.
<archetech>
run it in a terminal
<archetech>
see what it says
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<rpardini> archetech: add only the deb-src's for luifeng's ppa, then use "apt source --build" to try building them on lunar. twist it a bit and you can. at least mesa. the rest is more intricate.
<archetech>
cd /etc
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<archetech>
keep getting You must put some 'deb-src' URIs in your sources.list
<DC-IRC>
<tenkawa42> This was what I was trying to emphasize too...
<archetech>
whoa it took off after I reenbled it and update
<archetech>
then blew up
<archetech>
wants some deps
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> Oof, I don't mess with distro stuff, just kernel/u oot stuff
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<tenkawa42> Can't say I blame ya some days
<archetech>
its building!
<DC-IRC>
<Tonymac32> Nice!
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<archetech>
done got me a pile of debs in the build dir
<DC-IRC>
<ttttttttttttt4531> i got it to work by downgrading the armbian version, might switch away from opi 3lts, any recs with similair specs/price ?
<archetech>
mc
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<archetech>
his ppa says just this one I have the firmware already 23.0~panfork~csf~git221210.120202c6757~k
<archetech>
I should build gl4es and dri2to3 I suppose
<archetech>
for wayland
<archetech>
na
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<archetech>
gdebi looks viable
<archetech>
or sudo apt --fix-broken install ./name.deb both ways include deps
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<lanefu> OMG if you want to experience the weaknesses of the pinebook pro.. it's definetly doing a git clone of a large repo over wifi to sdcard
<DC-IRC>
<tenkawa42> @lanefu yeah.. that's why I went to nvme asap
<DC-IRC>
<lanefu> usually i havent cared cuz normally im just using browser and ssh and discord
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<lanefu> and disk perf on a big sdcard is _sufficient_ for that
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<archetech>
mesa_23.0~panfork~csf~git221210.120202c6757~k.tar.xz but no deb