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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I would use SLC for anything where I care about the longer term data retention
<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> But here I use a pile of spinning rust for that
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Red is bad because smr. Red plus is smr
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> I buy refurb WD gold or HGST enterprise for rust
<Armbian-Discord> <j​ames.network> If you are buying a fancy wd red, why not buy a nice x86 machine for it? That makes no sense to me, but ymmv
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Yeah for a webserve any middle of road SSD should be fine or less lol . Expecting much traffic?
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<Armbian-Discord> <T​onymac32> I have some standard non-smr Reds, but also a pile of HGST's
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> Red Plus is CMR, Red is SMR
<IgorPec> wasn't the rule that normal reds > 8TB were CMR too?
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> YUP
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> oops caps
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> I grabbed some Seagate Exos 14TBs for like $160 3ea
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> i have 3 x 10tb pro in my primary nas and still good space wise. more disks would only be handy for performance gain
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<Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Morning
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> morning. i won today 😉
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<hook> IgorPec: What did you win? :)
<hook> Nah, I don’t expect much traffic. But still prefer to keep the server and its disks running for ages, instead of migrating every 2-3 years
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<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> waking up before 5 am 😉
<hook> Haha, congrat‽
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<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Lol
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Currently mad cuz I woke up at 530
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<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> Er, yeah. The plus is better because cmr
<ArmbianHelper> ^ SSD disk SanDisk PLUS, 2,5, 480 GB | Enaa
<IgorPec> this Crucial MX500
<IgorPec> but i guess this sandisk is also just fine
<hook> A didn’t see a link to the Crucial, if you sent one.
<ArmbianHelper> (REDIRECT) ^ Crucial MX500 CT500MX500SSD1 500GB: Amazon.de: Computer & Accessories
<hook> Hmmm, and “3D NAND” is stacks of SLC, or just totally different?
<hook> I see it also marketed as “3D TLC”
<hook> Oh well, 5 years vs 3 years wins :)
<IgorPec> slc shuld be more durable then tlc
<IgorPec> mx500 has 5 years warranty?
<IgorPec> this is important. i have replaced failed samsung 2TB after 3 years of usage. TBW must be inside warranty limits
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<hook> 180 TB TBW for the 500 GB version
<IgorPec> that's plenty
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> The SanDisk don't have dram usually btw
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> Otherwise you can get used Samsung 893a
<Armbian-Discord> <c​ats> I use the 1.92tb versions, they have like 2pb write endurance
* hook ordered now
<hook> Thanks everyone. I hope it serves me fine for a long time.
<hook> I guess setting up a 2.5" HDD + a SSD either the EspressoBin or the Lime2 would be a bit of an overkill without additional external power?
<Armbian-Discord> <l​anefu> Just put espressobin in trash
<IgorPec> haha, i gave it to him
<IgorPec> should be fine for this job
<hook> XD
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<sheldor> I'm using latest armbian 22.08 but kernel is still 5.10.143
<sheldor> s/143/123/
<ArmbianHelper> sheldor meant to say: I'm using latest armbian 22.08 but kernel is still 5.10.123
<sheldor> Is that lastest 5.10 kernel available ?
<sheldor> I can't find https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages for Armbian
<ArmbianHelper> ^ Debian -- Packages
<IgorPec> we didn't upgrade current kernels because we could test them
<IgorPec> its one of those "for your safety". you can always change to daily build and see it things works
<IgorPec> if arch linux users survive this :)
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> packages list is not in debian.list
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> nas:igorp:# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/armbian.list deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/armbian.gpg] http://apt.armbian.com jammy main jammy-utils jammy-desktop
<ArmbianHelper> (REDIRECT) ^ Index of /apt/
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> switch apt -> beta and update (on your own risk)
<sheldor> Ok, thanks for answer, it's normal so it's a production server, so i'll be waiting for stable kernel version ;)
<Armbian-Discord> <I​gorPec> you can make a donation and we will test
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<Armbian-Discord> <b​ret> When you’re a bit sad and you have to do a double take to check that the boat didn’t say Armbian on it..
<ArmbianHelper> ^ [image/jpeg] (1.3MiB)
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> ah!
<Armbian-Discord> <M​anoftheSea> I was using an external 2.5" HDD on an ebin v7 for a while. And I was running into mystery crashes, which I eventually identified as having something to do with nftables. No idea if they were power related. And I'm not sure how you'd get an SSD on there too.
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