00:19 <stipa> Intel details 12th Gen Core SoCs optimized for edge applications

02:25 <Mangix> so I got this PiBox thing. Wonder if I should replace my Helios4 with it

03:33 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> that looks like the best option its $36 for case + power supply + heating sink (don't know if they mean heat sink but i don't know if it looks like one) and expansion board. the only thing is that there are no reviews but the price is really good and the shipping is fast

06:38 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Well as mentioned it is up to you if you need a case for it. I assume their so called heating sink is just a thermal pad that is designed to make contact between chip and case. In terms of power supply you probably have one already that creates 5 volts from a phone or whatever and what you get in the package is probably the cheapest even possible hw. As a side note powering through microusb is not recommended because

06:38 <Armbian-Discord> of voltage drop that could lead into weird hard to diagnose issues. barrel plug (if available, in this case not) or GPIO is recommended so you would have to cut the wires anyways

06:39 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> THOUGH as from my experience I never had issues with power via microUSB or USB-C but I guess I was just lucky 😄

08:25 <lmartin> hello, is it possible to see the changelog for released variant images?

08:26 <lmartin> btw, I'm running armbian bullseye on an orange pi 4 lts and it's very good so far.

08:28 <Armbian-Discord> <W​erner> Compact changelog: https://www.armbian.com/newsflash/armbian-22-08/ Detailed changelog: https://github.com/armbian/build/commits/master

08:28 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Armbian 22.08 – Armbian

08:28 <ArmbianHelper> ^ Commits · armbian/build · GitHub

08:28 <lmartin> Werner: thank you

11:30 <Armbian-Discord> <b​ret> Depending on what heatsink they include it could well be a heating sink 😄 I've done testing on AliExpress heatsinks that came with pre-applied tape that just made it hotter lol

11:31 <Armbian-Discord> <b​ret> guess I should fix my US mirror today too so I'm not paying for nada

13:09 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> In this case there is only micro usb

13:09 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> That does not sound good

13:11 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> besides if it comes with a power supply the power supply that it comes with should be fine I would assume

13:11 <Armbian-Discord> <b​ret> It was an interesting experience, more insulating than anything 😄 Shame I'm stuck with another 24 of them

13:12 <Armbian-Discord> <b​ret> They worked OK when I took that tape off though and replaced it with a smidgen of thermal paste

13:14 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> how would I even know that the temps are higher with heat sink?

13:14 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> I could test with and without yes but if I end up not

13:22 <Armbian-Discord> <b​ret> well, testing like that is pretty much all you can do 😄

19:53 <Armbian-Discord> <J​ason123> What do people think about the rock pi s?