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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <glozzom> I see a lot of conversation about the rk3588, is the rk3566 SOL for support? It seems pretty overshadowed
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> 4x cortex a55 is pretty underpowered so not of much use for most people
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> but it has decent support
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> but it has decent support, it's not exactly SOL.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> Rk3566 / rk3568 support is fairly mature, but yeah the excitement is around rk3588.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> I think rk3568 is an awesome chip because of its I/O
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> Can I have DRM/Widevine working on Noble 6.1? It all works well except for drm.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nicod_sbc> Can I have DRM/Widevine working on Noble 6.1 RK3588? It all works well except for drm.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Aren't all the rk3588 fans only 2pin? I guess it's some Rockchip reference thing
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> 40mm? Wow nice, I thought the smallest Nocuta fans were 80mm
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Did you also buy a 4-pin or a 2-pin fan with the correct connector or an adaptor?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Not all people care about HDMI 😄 I don't use it.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> 4 pin
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> https://a.co/d/0i5bl7CL
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> You enjoy tinkering 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> rock5 itx has a 4pin fan connector
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> Ha yeah. Unfortunately with the intermittent focus and commitment of a normal ADHD person
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Well but as a bonus you'll have a working quality fan in the end instead of a random chinese 4$ 2-pin one 👍
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> Well I already have the random $4 ones so I get both lol
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> 👍 But it's ITX, it's meant to be built into a normal PC ITX case with normal fans and such. Is it 12V also?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Can never have too many fans 🤓
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Yes 12V
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> The cpufreq stuff is not too exciting I believe. The problem is, we have/had most of the exciting stuff patched into edge for a while now. So new kernels aren't too exciting anymore 😅
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Maybe with 6.11 we can take it more slowly on the patch crazyness so we can enjoy when a new kernel drops 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Cool! They designed it for an actual normal consumer 😄
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> I'm mostly interested in whatever patch gets rid of the static high voltage setting so that temps drop on CPU some to make it closer to BSP temps.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> ....but I have fans
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Yeah that'll be one of the most exciting patches indeed 👍 Other than that, 6.11 should be pretty good even running without any patches. Rk3588 is starting to have most things supported.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> Yeah 6.8 was officially good enough for all my use cases. Pleased on where things are in general. Mostly I'm surprised development velocity has continued or increased.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> Still confused on who is paying collabora now. ..surely not just Raxda
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> I believe there is at least one company developing/selling rk3588 SBCs for industrial use, so I'm sure they're trying to work hard on this.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> About collabora, no idea though
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> Speaking of rk3588 did you all know about this MS surface equivalent
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> https://fydetabduo.com/specs
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> I know better than to touch one but it's intriguing
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> i got one of those a while ago, runs pretty well with their fydeos. but I don't ever expect mainline to ever be usable on these lol.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> rockchip has shoved a ton of power management into those drivers and i barely see any traces of that in mainline 🙂
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> so battery life is going to suck at the very least
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> most of armbian deployments for this chip are with rockchip kernel, except server / NAS cases. There mailine is just fine IHMO
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> yup, it's fine for server usage. but in practice this is the point where all development pretty much settles down from what I've seen in the past..
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> yeah, its expensive to drive mainline at this level
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> very expensive. and chip vendors have little interest in participating
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> This is too expensive. Its is just a rk3588s tablet. Xiaomi pad5 pro with snapdragon 870 is cheaper and has better mainline support.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> This is too expensive. It is just a rk3588s tablet. Xiaomi pad5 pro with snapdragon 870 is cheaper and has better mainline support.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> Yeah hard for an indie project to compete with xiaomi on price among other things
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> from what i'm understanding they're only doing like 400 of them
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> I'm guessing as a bit of a fundraiser endeavor more than trying to ship a product
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> wait till you see the mnt reform hardware 🤣
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-reform
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <runaway97> €1,400.00 for a rk3588 variant
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> That's crazy.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> My xiaomi pad5 pro costs me only 2000 CNY, including a bluetooth keyboard. And tablet with keyboard is only weigh less than 800g. I take it to classroom and can code from 9 a.m to 5 p.m without charging.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> can this device still be purchased?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> Yeah MNT is a luxury goods item for super principled nerds. I'd enjoy one but my principles made me but an m3 macbook pro instead lol
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> I bought it last year from a second hand shop. I don't know if xiaomi still sells it officially: https://www.mi.com/xiaomipad5pro
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> i was checking once and couldn't find ... tnx
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> I find some from aliexpress:
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <efectn> it seems there is one more variant named pad 5 comes with 860
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> That's much cheaper. But its cpu is at the same level with rk3588.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <efectn> Yeah. It looks like pad5 pro is exclusive to china, it's not available here, too
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <infinity_q> the neo looks nice, but expensive. Mario already has uefi running on it.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Are you running it with mainline or vendor os?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Mainline kernel.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> If you can use a chinese keyboard layout 😅
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Android vendor kernel is shit, you need a lot of userspace patches for it.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> This is a tablet. I use a common Bluetooth keyboard.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Yes. Does it just work with Armbian?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> I will never try qcom's vendor kernel.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Sorry I thought the keyboard was specifically for the device, like some clip-on thing.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Mainline is working fine now.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> And I just made my oneplus8t running armbian days ago.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> I took a look at the fydetab kernel patches for Linux, their whole patch set is in a single diff with no comments :PU_peeporeWide:
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <infinity_q> sounds fun.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> also who is the market for the fydetab? Seems very random.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> also who is the market for the fydetab? Seems very random at that price
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> > Maybe with 6.11 we can take it more slowly on the patch crazyness
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> I'd love it if we could have a kernel that survived `rsync` of more than 5-6GB without a kernel panic
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> so far the only kernel I've been able to successfully do the above with, on rk3588, is FreeBSD's
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> Interesting. I went looking for inspiration, but DT only drives the `&pwm14`, and unless I miss something can't read the tacho, that's on `pwm15_ir_m1`
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> what confuses me is that both vendor and mainline pwm-fan seem to want a `interrupt-parent = <&gpioX>;` and `interrupts = <YYY IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_FALLING>;` where `X` and `YYY` are the reference to the (generic) pin, not `pwm15_ir_m1`
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> if I understand correctly, for the Rock5 ITX it would be `GPIO4_B3` thus `interrupt-parent = <&gpio4>; interrupts = <RK_PB3 IRQ_TYPE_EDGE_FALLING>;`
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> oh and `pulses-per-revolution = <2>;`
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> thus my question: does one need to use a "pwm" capable pin, or _any pin_ good enough, for tacho?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> thus my question: does one need to use a "pwm" capable pin, or is _any pin_ good enough, for tacho?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> There is a FreeBSD kernel with rk3588 support?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Sounds deep 😅 Was this bug filed on mainline anywhere?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> the generic arm64 FreeBSD kernel works fine, lacks specific support for things like DVFS, requires UEFI to boot (I was able to get edk2-rk3588 to work for that)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> at first I thought it was an issue with Alexey’s cpufreq patches because I was running those on a 6.11-pre kernel… but no I haven’t filed it anywhere official yet
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> probably dvfs is the reason for crashing
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> except I’ve seen it on Linux kernels that have no support for cpufreq on rk3588 at all 😦
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> it’s a simple test. I’m trying to rsync some tarballs of backups from an NFS server to a local SATA drive on the Rock5B
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> SATA drive is an intel DC S3710 SSD connected via ASM1166 on an M.2 SATA board
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Does it reproduce with a generic distro image and edk2?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> I haven’t tested edk2 with Linux yet. I used u-boot for my Linux testing and EDK2 for FreeBSD.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> kernel panic on 6.10.RC is expected 😉 what about vendor kernel and same situation?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> I haven’t ever booted a vendor kernel on here and I’d prefer not to since I don’t want their u-boot either
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <lanefu> rk3588 "current" was added as 6.8.y to help people happy with headless mainline endure during edge version changes
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <narga_64> Way to go 🔥👍
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> yeah, I like to do things the hard way for no particularly good reason, what of it
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <igorpec> wow. well, if not, for refference is good
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