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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> New rk 6.1 kernel is released.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> private repo or can you share the link?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> I'm still downloading.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> also RGA3 on RK3576?? Everywhere I looked suggested otherwise
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Wonder why the bottom commit mentions rga3 on rk3576
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Driver of rga2 is also at dir rga3.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> I wonder who at rockchip decided to put the highend decoders/encoders in but then only use RGA2 🙃
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> 🤏🏻 so close to RK3588 alternative regarding jellyfin
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> so close to what now?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <Werner> I think what they meant is that RK3588 is the way to go in terms of Jellyfin usage and RK3576 could be a cheaper alternative which still has some development to go.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <c133> ahhhhh
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> It can basically do everything RK3588 can do besides HDR (Tone Mapping).
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> when it’s finished are you gonna upload it as a tag on armbian/linux-rockchip?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Yes
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> new sdk kernel pushed
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <efectn> So we can finally merge rk3576 into rk35xx
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Yeah, we should rebase our commits to it first.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> @spooky8086 new base for ubuntu-rockchip too
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> that’s way more commits than I expected. Some look promising like EMMC Command Queue support on RK3588 too. Lots of HDMI related QoL and of course all the RK3576
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> Yup, i see some nice changes, i'm excited to see how the RK3576 GPU preforms
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> I do see all the hdptxphy_hdmi_clk0 and hdptxphy_hdmi_clk1 nodes for rk3588 need to be changed
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> G52 MC2 performs around 590 Geekbench6 points per core so that times 3 for the G52 MC3
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> so 40-50% expected compared to RK3588 from my tests.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> Ooo interesting, i have the sige5 coming in soon, so will be a good test
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> G52 MC2 performs around 590 Geekbench6 --gpu points per core so that times 3 for the G52 MC3
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> I tried panfrost on rk3576 but failed. Gpu power domain of rk3576 would cause panfrost crash.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> Ah i see
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> what about mali blob?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <efectn> Rk3576 sounds interesting. Vpu is similar as rk3588 and has UFS support
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Mali works. That's supported by rk's sdk.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Rk3576 has hevc 444 decoding support. And sunshine is now adding support of hevc 444.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> sunshine is what? 😅
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Sunshine is an opensource streaming server of moonlight.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Huh so it's quite a bit different
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Oh nice, thought it’s another codename to remember haha
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <efectn> Oh really? What's the main difference? Completely different VPU IP?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Wow
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Proper PCIe too?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> because UFS or did I overlook something?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Need to get my hands one one ASAP hahaha
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> UFS, cache-coherent PCIe
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Just wow
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Rk3588 doesn't support hevc 444, so rk3576 should have a newer vpu.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> This makes a great server little server SoC
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> This makes a great little server SoC
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> And the SoC is cheaper than RK3588
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> I do think we‘re gonna see a new qnap maybe other vendor too NAS with it.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> single core performance after all is 2x RK3568
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> I cannot imagine Rockchip upgraded their VPU. Especially for a lower tier SoC. Are you sure that feature now isn’t available on RK3588 too?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <efectn> Also interesting to see i3c support
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Oh that SoC is gonna be CHEAP. TV boxes are already available to germany on aliexpress for 95€
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Wait wasn't this the lottery chip?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> With 6 cores but you could maybe get 8?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> I‘m pretty sure lottery was only for off the roadmap chips right?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> From the Armbian Forum: "In China, this 8+128GB only costs less than $75"
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Did Rockchip make a free SoC lol
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Need to find out which node this was made on maybe it’s some new SMIC stuff
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> Yes, rk3588 does not support hevc 444 decoding.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Is the TRM for rk3576 out/leaked yet?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> Im sure its in the full sdk, but idk if it has been uploaded yet
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Had the same thought 👀
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Google with search query‘s for pdf couldn’t find anything
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> I dont have access to the 6.1 sdk but i do have access to 5.10, i wonder if they are not adding support for RK3576 on 5.10
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> I’ve always read RK3576 in correlation to 6.1. Honestly I‘d be glad if rock chip now completely focuses on that
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <spooky8086> True, 5.10 is a terrible mess of a kernel
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> It was only acceptable when we literally had nothing else.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> Whyyyyy did they choose Cortex A72 + A53
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> I got excited for nothing lol
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mariob> It's better than rk3588 in some cases but severely CPU crippled
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <amazingfate> In my opinion rk3576 is a low end soc with some experimental features, with the purpose of testing for next flagship soc.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> next flagship has to have at least X1 but to be on top again X3 armv9 cores though but they’re expensive
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> A710 I guess if we stay with the "mobile" cores. Anything Armv9 really
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> my bet still is on mediatek next year
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> @amazingfate I think you’re right about the VPU. Not sure if it’s an error but I just read 8k30 4k120 also for AV1 instead of 4k60 on RK3588
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> We need to get RK3576 in the hands on @nagatoronyan bc that upgraded VPU makes me hope he can somehow pull off a miracle and also get HDR working on that "RGA 2.5?"
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nagatoronyan> A cursory glance suggests that rga2p evolved from rga2e, so it is not a brother of rga3. Of course we need a TRM to confirm this.
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> I found RGA2p documents and spec: https://github.com/airockchip/librga/blob/main/docs/Rockchip_Developer_Guide_RGA_EN.md
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Including RK3576
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Quite a few new formats
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<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Quite a few new formats
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> (Left input | right output)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Quite a few new formats for rga2p
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> (Left input | right output)
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nagatoronyan> It still can't output in 10bit format.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> So much added and that's where they cut the corner... I guess for the price it still is impressive
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <nagatoronyan> I think what RK should improve is the write-back function of VOP. Mediatek soc can reuse the display pipeline in the transcoding pipeline, so in theory it can use fixed-function hardware to do HDR2SDR.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Is that why rockchip also advertises HDR2SDR but maybe that’s only for display output and can’t be reused for encoding?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <rpardini> 6.1.75 is not as old as 6.1.43 was when rkr1 was released. maybe they're picking up their pace?
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> looks like my made up name is actually official as per the datasheet "Rockchip RGA v2.5 engine with dual core"
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Just theoretically, couldn’t we just add a a color space conversion to the source material and then do the rest if the SoC doesn’t have 10bit support? Resulting in other Rockchip SoC‘s getting the capability to tonemap too.
<DC-IRC> [Discord] <mecoblock> Just theoretically, couldn’t we just add a a color space conversion to the source material and then do the rest if the SoC doesn’t have 10bit support? Resulting in other Rockchip SoC‘s getting the capability to tonemap too.