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<vagrantc> is patman's upstream the u-boot source tree, or does is it a copy/fork?
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<GuySoft> marex, Variscite. they kept sending saying they don't support debian and that I should use Yocto. and sent me to the libubootenv docs saying that is how yocto does it
<GuySoft> BTW - I can't get this channel to work on matrix because of the hyphen, so #u-boot:libera.chat does not work
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* GuySoft asks in matrix HQ channel
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<milkylainen> A generic high level network question. What problems would there be in using only fast ethernet phys in new designs today? I mean, beside the obvious "yeah it's old"? Is there any real fear of 100Base-TX being deprecated anytime soon?
<marex> GuySoft: errr ... variscite had some debian image at least for the mx8mm in their wiki, maybe they have some image for others too
<marex> but oh well
<marex> milkylainen: why would it be a problem ? its so omnipresent I dont see how fast ethernet could become unsupported anytime soon
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<jkorsnes[m]> does i2c and serial differ in their driver-model interface? i2c seems straight-forward, I obtain a udevice, and perform dm_i2c_<op>(udevice, params, ...). serial on the other hand, it seems I have to pull out the udevice ops via a macro serial_get_ops(dev). would this be correct usage of serial udevice, or have I misunderstood?
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<marex> jkorsnes[m]: they are both backed by udevice instance, but each implements different ops (i2c implements its transfer ops, serial implements getc/putc/tstc ops)
<milkylainen> marex: I dunno. Just a general reflection over things. Like all things, they get deprecated over time.
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<marex> milkylainen: 10/half is still supported on everything ...
<marex> errr ... except for renesas
<marex> there it is somehow weird, I think it can only do 10/full
<marex> I guess 100/full is going to be around for maybe another decade or more
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<milkylainen> I guess so. I'm surprised that there is new sales of non 1000Base-T capable phys.
<milkylainen> Can't really be a cost thing nowdays? Only volume thing?
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<Dhruvag2000[m]> Tom Rini: please can you take a look at
<Dhruvag2000[m]> STIG READ Fixes in Cadence QuadSPI
<Dhruvag2000[m]> Can this be merged?
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<Tartarus> Dhruvag2000: Can you please ping Jagan first and note that it's an important fix that should be in the release?
<Dhruvag2000[m]> Will do,
<Dhruvag2000[m]> It's an important fix because without this reading multiple registers from some flash chips is almost impossible in some cases.
<Forty-Bot> milkylainen: some SoCs only have 100M MACs
<Forty-Bot> no point getting a faster phy if you're just going to use RMII
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<milkylainen> Forty-Bot: Yes I know. And DDR3. Or even DDR2. Which is also a stupid idea.
<Forty-Bot> well, there you really are stuck with the memory :)
<milkylainen> Point of the discussion is "Is it resonable to expect that the world will deprecate 100-BaseTX soon?"
<Forty-Bot> no, it will live forever
<Forty-Bot> it's fast enough and that's what matters
<milkylainen> So is DDR2. :P
<Forty-Bot> ddr2 is less power-efficient
<Forty-Bot> actually, 100base-tx is too, but 1000base-tx isn't winning on that front
<milkylainen> :)
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<Tartarus> Sigh, I should just give up and move back to irccloud, still out of sync so I can't change the topic from here
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<marex> Tartarus: 2023.01 ?
<marex> Forty-Bot: I agree that 100baseT is going to be here until the end of times
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<Tartarus> -rc3, did I make a thinko somewhere?
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<marex> Tartarus: yeah, in TOPIC
<Tartarus> Yes, I can't edit the topic since the matrix gateway thing is out of sync, still
<marex> Tartarus: what do you want to put in there ?
<Tartarus> Ah, sec
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<marex> better ?
<Tartarus> #u-boot SOURCE MOVED TO https://source.denx.de/u-boot/u-boot.git / U-Boot 2022.10, 2023.01-rc3 / Merge Window is CLOSED, -next is OPEN / Release v2023.01 is scheduled for 2023-01-09 / Channel archives at https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/u-boot
<Tartarus> next is open :)
<Tartarus> and thanks!
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<marex> there
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