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* vagrantc lobs u-boot 2022.10 at Debian
<vagrantc> let's hope it fares better than 2022.07 ...
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<naoki> do I need to subscribe ML if I want to send patch to ML?
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<vagrantc> naoki: your first message(s) might get delayed in moderation the first time(s), but mostly no
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<naoki> vagrantc: oh, I see. thanks!
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<hramrach> naoki: most mailing lists also offer the option to subscribe without receiving the list e-mails
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<sjg1> Tartarus: Hi, do you know what happened to that IPv6 series?
<Tartarus> sjg1: moving forward, slowly?
<sjg1> Tartarus: OK. It seemed very close last time so I was hoping it might make it in this cycle
<sjg1> Tartarus: Also we should be able to do the SPL_TPL_ rationalisation anytime we like, now that you have sorted out the SPL Kconfig options
<sjg1> Tartarus: Perhaps the first 10 patches could go in anyway. I know you were worried about push-back from Linux on the split stuff
<Tartarus> sjg1: I gotta think if I liked that rationalisation series or if I had some other objection at the time wrt how we build/configure things
<Tartarus> and breakfast then status call time for me
<sjg1> Tartarus: OK...you had an objection I think, to do with changing the tool
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<apalos> Do you want me to repost that series? AFAIU you agree with the whole "let's not print a wall of unknowns in the smbios table"
<apalos> And if I do so I can probabl strtok that root compatible node, which seems to hold the truth for the 'manufacturer' field
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<hanetzer> bill the cat acks everything ;)
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<sjg1> apalos: Am I the only one that expressed concern about that? I thought we agreed on printing a warning so that people have time to add the correct date before we disable it?
<apalos> sjg1: Sean had some concerns as well, but Tom replied similar to what I am proposingf
<apalos> SO I am trying to figure out what we expect of this patchset
<sjg1> apalos: It is interesting that Tom says most x86 devices don't even add these values. Anyway I thought we agreed a path forward 2 weeks ago
<apalos> sjg1: yea but Tom wasn't there back then
<apalos> sjg1: and I still believe that we convenienlty keep ignoring the handover from a previous bootloader
<apalos> so unless those bindings get merged in a spec, I cant see how you'll have a device which inherits a DT not report garbage
<apalos> unless we split the .dts of u-boot to upstream + a bunch of .dtsi's
<apalos> (which is what we discussed on Swden). But I looked at that and it's not too easy to split them
<sjg1> apalos: Well yes adding them to the schema is the right approach in any case. How about doing that?
<sjg1> apalos: Also did you see this? https://www.spinics.net/lists/devicetree/msg537485.html
<sjg1> apalos: Would appreciate a review if you can
<sjg1> apalos: I'll ping it at the end of the week
<apalos> sjg1: ah thanks for the heads up, I didn't see that
<apalos> sjg1: I don't really have the time to do the schema thing,
<sjg1> apalos: We are setting a standard here that will be used for decades. We need to put the work in to do it properly. This is the future of embedded computing
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<Tartarus> Alright, so, there's a bunch of different fun re smbios stuff
<Tartarus> imho, the x86 world can be broken up in to server, consumer and embedded, and server I'm sure gets all of that stuff well populated as there's a lot of enterprise tooling that requires it
<Tartarus> consumer? Some, but not so much, even setting aside the whitebox market
<Tartarus> embedded? I'm not sure honestly how much that is or is not correct
<Tartarus> But if data is not present, I do think "Unknown foo" is a reasonable thing to provide, but it should well get provided
<apalos> Tartarus: what the patch is trying to do, is that we have a special "smbios" entry in u-boot's DT
<apalos> If tha thing is *missing* we can dereive at least the model and the manuf from the DT root_node() because there's a bunh of "Unknown"
<apalos> but we can ofc go back and add the missing smbios nodes for the remaining ~1000 boards :>
<Tartarus> Well, maybe some boards will start populating that information too, if it's then usable to userspace and can be provided
<Tartarus> like my laptop does have the fields populated that a consumer might see in some about this machine tool, manuf and product
<Tartarus> but some other stuff is hit or miss, and we can sometimes provided and sometimes nut
<Tartarus> not
<Tartarus> such as serial #
<apalos> yea I only 'fixed' manuf and model in that patchset
<apalos> (there's serial support in the smbios code as long as #seril env variable is there)
<apalos> what we were arguing about is, does it make sense to have a catchall fallback to the default DT and not rely on the smbios node
<apalos> Or just warn on builds and start adding the missing nodes
<Tartarus> Well, the smbios DT binding, is that upstreamed?
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<apalos> no
<apalos> sjg1: is starting to try and upstream some nodes though,
<apalos> SO i guess those could follow up at some point
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<sjg1> apalos: Tartarus Yes I can upstream it since Linaro seems too busy :-) I'll give it a try next week
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<xypron> Tartarus: We could update the IRC welcome message.
<Tartarus> xypron: Yes, but I'm glitched atm with matrix
<Tartarus> Did chanserv de-op me just now?
<xypron> It says you are mode -o
<Tartarus> yeah, the status isn't moving over the bridge hmm
<Tartarus> Oh good, that did work
<Tartarus> Can you please update it xypron ?
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<xypron> Tartarus: done
<Tartarus> thanks!
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<LeSpocky> erstmal die 64bit xen vm testen
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<marex> LeSpocky: und alles funkcioniert ?
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<LeSpocky> sorry, wrong channel
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<naoki> but I had to comment out most part of board specific dts file. otherwise, it hangs just after
<naoki> U-Boot SPL 2022.10-00009-gde4742b619 (Oct 04 2022 - 22:53:43 +0000)
<naoki> I want to ask basic policy of board specific dts file. I'm working for rk3566/rk3568 boards. currently it runs to some degree.
<naoki> Trying to boot from MMC1
<naoki> here is current dts files
<naoki> should I make minimal dts files? or should I investigate why it hangs, then use full dts files(just copy of Linux)?
<cambrian_invader> where'd you get the E25 dts?
<naoki> cambrian_invader: I made it for Linux
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<naoki> cambrian_invader: are you working for E25 or CM3I module? that dts is WIP, I need to split it between CM3I common part and E25 specific part