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<hays> Hey how do you all feel about Yocto? I am a little worried that updates will be a pain in the butt
<Forty-Bot> upstream seems to avoid breaking things on stable
<Forty-Bot> vendor layers have no such qualms
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<hays> im still trying to puzzle exactly what are in these 'layers' but it seems like its drivers or firmware of some sort for the board
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<Forty-Bot> it's packages, just like your distro has packages
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<hays> yeah, i think i just need to figure out what is in userspace vs kernel/bootloader and if there's a good bisection point
<hays> hoping yocto maybe can be of service for creating atf/u-boot/kernel/firmware/modules, then maybe not too much userspace stuff the vendor is asking for? we'll see
<Forty-Bot> I believe the goal of that project is to be able to create all the software/binaries which go into a device
<Forty-Bot> I certainly use it to do U-Boot/Linux/etc as well as the rootfs
<hays> yeah it is
<hays> but also seems like its flexible in some ways
<hays> only reason im digging in--IMX packages its BSP as yocto
<hays> so im hoping coming through that build process will yield artifacts I can use to enable any distro
<hays> seems plausible as an outcome--i cant imagine there's too much in userland this board needs to be functional at the hardware level
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<marex> Forty-Bot: at least the vendor layer I am involved in are trying to be clean and do no bullshit
<marex> *layers
<marex> means, checkpatch, YCL, oelint-adv is the bare minimum
<Forty-Bot> meta-freescale doesn't care
<marex> Forty-Bot: I know you do want to get me started, but there is so much to say about that one that ... nah
<marex> it's not worth it
<marex> ;-)
<marex> Forty-Bot: btw I avoid the meta-freescale/meta-imx goo, the layers for imx8m SoC systems have it all isolated in dynamic-layers and by default use upstream stuff instead, which doesn't need the NXP crud
<marex> with xilinx and petalinux ... well ... the situation is even worse, but there it is also possible to avoid it just fine
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<hays> is there a way to see the layers in some kind of tree