14:38 <TimMc> ocdtrekkie: I've had a more pleasant experience using `redo`, which fixes a lot of the problems that plague Makefiles.

14:39 <TimMc> A lot of people just use Makefiles as a way of bundling together a collection of small scripts, though, which isn't what make is for in the first place. And redo doesn't really support that use-case.

14:40 <ocdtrekkie> I am very comfortable with vagrant-spk's default style for better or worse, so when people engineer their own strategy, it gets a bit frustrating.

14:41 <ocdtrekkie> I have the WordPress port 98% updated to use the proxy for external requests though, I mostly went around the Makefile.

14:43 <TimMc> *nod* Just an option to be aware of.

14:45 <TimMc> The two big selling points on redo are that 1) you get to use normal bash scripts (or any scripting language!) instead of weird Makefile scripting, and 2) you can represent the dependency tree dynamically, including declaring source dependencies *after* you've built. It's much more robust.