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<isene>
havenwood: Fixed namespace (I think) and included gem-stuff in Github repo. Looks OK?
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<havenwood>
isene: Did you push the `lib/rcurses/*` changes? I still see one file outside a namespace.
<havenwood>
I do see the gem stuff! One note on that, add `rcurses-*.gem` or `*.gem` to your `.gitignore` or use a convention like building into `pkg/` and add `pkg/*` to `.gitignore` just to avoid accreting gem build artifacts into the repo.
<havenwood>
I'd `git rm` the one that got in just to clean up.
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<havenwood>
isene: Ah, I see, you put `Pane` in `Rcurses`. *Every* new class needs to be inside.
<havenwood>
Have your `lib/rcurses.rb` be just a `module Rcurses` newline and `end`. Then create a `lib/rcurses/` directory for a file corresponding to each of your modules and classes.
<havenwood>
(With the one exception of String, which you can put in `lib/rcurses/ext/string.rb`.)
<havenwood>
So `Rcurses::Pane` is `lib/rcurses/pane.rb` and `Rcurses::Rinput` is `lib/rcurses/rpinput.rb` and so on.
<havenwood>
No new classes or modules outside of `Rcurses` module, and all files in `lib/rcurses/` directory or subdirectories to reflect that namespace.
<havenwood>
Require the `lib/rcurses/` files like `path.rb` and `rinput.rb` from your `lib/rcurses.rb` file.
<havenwood>
Maybe avoid the "r" prefix outside gem name.
<havenwood>
The convention is important to avoid namespace pollution but also for code loading.
<havenwood>
Also nice for the reader. If I see an `Rcurses::Pane::StainedGlass` I go looking for a `lib/rcurses/pane/stained_glass.rb` file.
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<o0x1eef>
+1
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<johnjaye>
o0x1eef: since you're around, can you recommend a good place to start exploring ruby packages?
<johnjaye>
mostly i'm interested in http server/networking atm but any kind of thing you can recommend to get started would be great
<o0x1eef>
Maybe https://www.ruby-toolbox.com/ helps ? I understood the async gem and its related plugins / extensions are popular right now. IIRC the falcon web server in particular. Other people may be able to chime in as well
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<johnjaye>
i meant more like, things you absolutely have to know if you're going to do ruby if that makes sense
<johnjaye>
but i'll check it out thanks
<o0x1eef>
No worries
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<isene>
havenwood: That was a mouthful. Not sure I understand all of it... Would it be possible for you to do a PR on all that?
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<isene>
havenwood: How do I reconcile this statement: "Have your `lib/rcurses.rb` be just a `module Rcurses` newline and `end`." with this: "Require the `lib/rcurses/` files like `path.rb` and `rinput.rb` from your `lib/rcurses.rb` file." What would be the full content of the lib/rcurses.rb file, then?
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<havenwood>
isene: Sorry, I meant for the `module Rcurses` to be empty, using the files only for requires.
<havenwood>
It's fine to instead use your top level namespace, but it's not necessary.
<havenwood>
isene: Yes, I can do a PR to show or explain.
<havenwood>
For example, extract just one class like `Pane` to start.
<havenwood>
Remove the code from `lib/rcurses.rb` and replace it with a `require_relative 'rcurses/pane'` at the top of that file.
<havenwood>
Then create a `lib/rcurses/pane.rb` and paste your `module Rcurses` with nested `class Pane` into that file.
<havenwood>
Confirm things work, rinse and repeat.
<havenwood>
isene: If you want to try extracting just `Pane` we can confirm it's correct. Since Ruby doesn't have a more formal way for namespaces, these conventions end up being inordinately critical to follow.
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<isene>
What I don't get is why not have it all in one file?
<weaksauce>
what do you gain from one file?
<havenwood>
You can do that, just nesting classes and modules. It's not ideal since humans like things separated into discrete digestible parts and because autoloaders can take advantage of conventions to load things when needed, do it efficiently up front, and so on.
<havenwood>
I saw a huge customer facing app for macOS that was on one line that was one of the strangest money-making apps I've ever seen.
<havenwood>
You *can* do it, but you're fighting the conventions for both humans and machines.
<havenwood>
It's a huge favor to yourself and others to learn Ruby conventions and follow them.
<havenwood>
isene: If you have a strong preference for one file, you can ditch namespace-to-filename conventions but don't unless you have a good reason. It breaks tools that are nice.
<havenwood>
I get the hesitance to split files. This "organization for the point of organization" can make it harder for me too. That said, the Ruby conventions are 100% worth following for the readership and functionality wins.
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<leftylink>
oops. I was going too fast and accidentally did `min, min = xs.minmax`
<leftylink>
the error was quickly caught when getting a NameError on `max`
<leftylink>
but just imagine if I'd reused the variable and `max` was set by some previous line of code
<leftylink>
that would have been a complete and utter disaster