#ruby on 2024-04-26 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2024-04-23 13:15 adam12 changed the topic of #ruby to: Ruby 3.3.1, 3.2.4, 3.1.5 https://www.ruby-lang.org | Logs https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/ruby

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00:37 <[0x1eef]> gems/rails is only 7kb :)

00:51 <weaksauce> amazing that something that has such a profound output and influence in the world is only 7k on disk

00:53 <[0x1eef]> It's probably a meta gem.

00:56 <weaksauce> that's true

00:56 <weaksauce> active support is 252k

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01:00 <weaksauce> alright all told rails is 1,769k

01:02 <weaksauce> which is about the size that can fit on one 3.5" floppy disk

01:02 <weaksauce> hah

01:03 <[0x1eef]> That's a good way to put it in perspective.

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11:31 <tarel2> I'm sure you all can program in more than one language , so why Ruby ?

11:34 <llua> since ruby is one of those languages

11:36 <tarel2> I have gotten into program like in the last year. so I wonder why people do pick what they do

11:37 <llua> the reasons are innumerable.

11:38 <llua> its like questioning the meaning of life

11:39 <tarel2> yes are lots of reasons, I get that but why did you ? just hay why not reason?

11:40 <tarel2> Myself , I chose what I did to program my micro controller.

11:42 <llua> i was introduced to it via puppet and found it easy to work with.

11:43 <tarel2> haha puppets

11:43 <tarel2> I had tried to program before this ,but I did not get far . C ++ , python

11:45 <tarel2> meaning I tried them but did not learn them.

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11:52 <adam12> tarel2: I enjoy writing and reading Ruby code.

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11:53 <adam12> tarel2: I'm also a lazy developer and a lot of nice things are built into Ruby.

11:56 <tarel2> Good reason

11:57 <tarel2> what kind of stuff do you make?

11:58 <adam12> tarel2: Lots of web applications. I've built 2 cloud platforms, monitoring service, restaurant order-ahead system, DNS cluster, marketplaces, CMS, and I've probably forgot many more.

11:58 <adam12> tarel2: I write lots of scripts to make my day easier. Find and extract content from sites, etc.

11:58 <adam12> tarel2: I use `irb` as my calculator.

11:58 <adam12> bbl. kids to school :)

12:00 <tarel2> Well, I was wondering what you can do with it , and that is very different stuff

12:01 <tarel2> The only Rudy code I have is something that gets the names of directories and put them into a file

12:02 <tarel2> I was to lazy to write all 200 something movie names

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13:04 <mooff> `irb` as a calculator is the first thing taught in Ruby In Twenty Minutes.. been mine since then ;-)

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13:06 <tarel2> the only higher lan I have use is python. is like that at all?

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13:08 <tarel2> What i did not like about it is the tab thing at all

13:08 <adam12> tarel2: I'm not a fan of significant whitespace either.

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13:08 <adam12> tarel2: I find most people either like Ruby or Python. They are similar in use cases so most people just pick one or the other. Sometimes they need a library in Python for specific uses but there is a lot of overlap.

13:09 <tarel2> Well, I wrote this play program that was chat with like couple people and line up all the branching stuff was so hard

13:10 <tarel2> I know there are better way to write it but i did not know that

13:10 <mooff> was reading this yesterday https://softwaredoug.com/blog/2021/11/12/ruby-vs-python-for-loop.html

13:12 <tarel2> I tried c ++ , failed at that. Python still working on that , tried python again but for a micro controller , switch to c , did not like that and been learning arm 32 bit assembly and 64 bit too

13:12 <tarel2> I would say I'm still learning very much

13:12 <mooff> a really useful part of Ruby is all of this stuff on arrays and hashes: https://ruby-doc.org/core-3.0.2/Enumerable.html

13:13 <mooff> it's really easy to remember and feels like a superpower

13:13 <tarel2> I could see that

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13:14 <tarel2> I have never gotten into scripting at all ,but a few of them

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13:14 <tarel2> Plus , I have not really done much in higher languages at all.

13:15 <tarel2> I feel like there are idea , concepts , data structures , I need to learn

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13:25 <mooff> have fun. high level languages are great

13:27 <tarel2> I do have to say this , looking at blinking led , I all 200 lines of assembly that it took to do so is cool

13:28 <tarel2> after months of looking

13:29 <tarel2> I'm not saying all that kind of thing

13:29 <tarel2> programming itself is great

13:29 <tarel2> and on Linux is better

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14:21 <leftylink> yeah for me it was just because a tool that someone developed for an MMO game I was playing chose to write their tool in Ruby

14:21 <leftylink> so the choice was not made by me, it was made for me by someone else

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14:24 <aesthetikx> good choice

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