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<rapha> now the next level is: how do you know which web server the test runner is starting for its integration tests, and on what port/socket. so far, with netstat and lsof, i've gotten nowhere.
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<rapha> hmm, okay, it seems to pretend there's an example.com where it runs. perhaps that's good enough.
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<adam12> manveru: o/
<manveru> heya :)
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<adam12> leah2: look who I found ^ :P
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<leah2> ha
<leah2> hi manveru
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<manveru> leah2: yo, long time no see :)
<manveru> adam12: and thanks for the tip, i just added thelounge to one of my servers, seems nice
<adam12> manveru: Awesome :)
<leah2> true
<adam12> leah2: Found manveru on Gleam Discord. Reminded him that IRC is still a thing and best of all, you're here! :P
<leah2> pff
<leah2> i'm on gleam discord too
<leah2> :pp
<manveru> lol
<adam12> :O
<adam12> WHATT
<adam12> That's hilarious.
<manveru> why do we keep bumping into each other?
<leah2> gleam seems nice but i havent really used it
<adam12> leah2: I'm trying to find a use case for it.
<adam12> I saw them mention that someone put a reverse proxy into production with it, and I could possibly see myself doing that.
<adam12> SQL support seems lacking which eliminates 90% of what I do day to day.
<manveru> yeah... still working on that postgres lib
<manveru> got a bit sidetracked with getting i18n nice first though ^^;
<adam12> manveru: Oh are you working on one? Nice.
<manveru> yeah, i got the protocol parser done at https://github.com/grodaus/postgresql_protocol
<adam12> Neat. I'll have to check it out.
<manveru> need an oid agent for the actual type encodings, and a connection pool, but in the end it probably won't work much different from pgo
<manveru> so sorry... this won't be anything like Sequel anytime soon
<adam12> I couldn't give up my beloved Sequel.
<manveru> i mostly enjoy writing binary protocol stuff in gleam so far, bitstring pattern matching is just fun
<adam12> It looks similar to Elixir bitstring pattern matching which I also found quite fun
<leah2> yep
<adam12> Parsing MP3 tags and such.
<manveru> yeah, same as erlang one
<manveru> coincidence? i think not!
<adam12> LOL
<manveru> anyway, what's new in ruby land?
<adam12> manveru: My favourites lately have been new debug gem, YJIT, and pattern matching.
<adam12> Maybe more.
<manveru> are there still three competing type system implementations?
<adam12> Definitely 2 mainstream with 1 experimental.
<adam12> I haven't found joy in any of them...
<adam12> I think rbs/steep might get there eventually. There's a RubyKaigi talk scheduled about inlining the types in the Ruby code, which might be interesting.
<adam12> My non-favourite pieces have been rdoc/docs in general and the overall focus on Rails :\
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<adam12> Oh. Async / Fiber scheduler have bene awesome too.
<adam12> I'm only really starting to scratch the surface with Async/Fiber but I've built 3 projects on it now where historically I might have used Go/Elixir.
<manveru> i saw https://github.com/wouterken/crystalruby the other day
<adam12> It's intriguing.
<adam12> Reminds me of Ryan's project inlineruby or whatever.
<adam12> Where you can just embed C.
<manveru> yeah
<manveru> but it definitely beats writing C :)
<adam12> 100%
<adam12> I haven't had any performance issues on projects as of late, so I haven't really needed to look anywhere else.
<manveru> i don't quite like that it does JSON serialization for composite types... but that's something fixable
<adam12> Is that what it does? Interesting...
<adam12> Seems path of least resistance vs using something like MessagePack / Cap Proto / Whatever.
<manveru> yeah, since they both have JSON in stdlib
<manveru> i just thought it may be fun to basically make a server that way, where you only have the actual application code in ruby, and the framework sits on the crystal side...
<manveru> would basically eliminate compile times while still giving you good performance
<adam12> An interesting approach. I was musing with havenwood about something similar. I want a compiled shell but a lot of application code written in Ruby.
<adam12> Kind of like neovim+lua extensions.
<manveru> heh
<adam12> But let me ship a single binary or a few files to a remote host.
<adam12> mruby doesn't get me there, and linking to ruby seems problematic lately.
<manveru> well, mruby would be the other option, if you can live without most gems
<adam12> I found a fun ruby bug ticket about adding support to Ruby for ruby-like archives which seemed interesting. I've experimented with my own single-file Ruby archive last night.
<manveru> my son did a bunch of games with dragonruby, which basically combines gtk and mruby into a game engine... it was quite slow and had strange behavior compared to ruby
<adam12> manveru: Really? I heard such great things about dragonruby perf.
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<adam12> I always wanted to try it but I'm already short on time as it is.
<manveru> dunno, we switched to the lobster language later and it was way faster
<adam12> Hmm
<manveru> anyway, will check out that fiber stuff, looks interesting :)
<adam12> Definitely.
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