ifreund changed the topic of #river to: river - a dynamic tiling wayland compositor || https://github.com/riverwm/river || channel logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/river/
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<k-man> thanks NickH. I'll give those a go tonight
<k-man> regarding documentation. i had this crazy thought. the init file IS the doco right. what if we could make a system that generates the init and documentaion. one thing I find myself wanting is a quick 1 pager to remind me of keyboard shortcuts
<NickH> You could wrap riverctl in a script that outputs each binding into a file to document them.
<k-man> yeah
<k-man> i imagine something like how in github, if you press ? you get a little popup with keyboard shortcuts
<NickH> Then set a keybinding to display contents of said file with something like zenity
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<k-man> yeah exactly
<k-man> wait what is zenity?
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<NickH> Yes thats it. "apt isntall zenity"
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<k-man> NickH: are you an emacs user by any chance?
<k-man> i think the init could be a good candidate for literate programming. in particular because you can easily execute a given snippet of code from within emacs
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<NickH> k-man: yes. But I build from source so I can use --with-pgtk
<NickH> Looks like it should be in backports soon though.
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<NickH> Ohh, it is already :-)
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<k-man> NickH: I’m confused. What should be in backports?
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<k-man> Emacs?
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<k-man> NickH: why do you use the wlop program? does swaylock not blank the screen?
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<k-man> do i run swayidle as a daemon from within the river init?
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<Nosrep> anyone getting new firefox bug? hover tooltips don't disappear anymore
<Nosrep> only within a page and doesn't look like native tooltips are broken
<Nosrep> only like in youtube or something like that where i guess it creates them itself
<novakane> Nosrep: on firefox 118? I have no problems with that
<Nosrep> yeah 118
<k-man> i just noticed in gimp, if i toggle it to full screen, then ctrl+n for new document, the new document popup is hidden from view
<novakane> works fine for me, but then there is always a lot of bugs in firefox
<novakane> k-man: nothing is rendered above a fullscreen window
<k-man> novakane: so it's a feature?
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<novakane> k-man: it is how it works yeah
<k-man> hmmm
<Guest98> hi everyone, I'm curious how are you using River? Did you rice it a lot? Do you use rivertile or another layout or did you code one from scratch?
<k-man> how can i make the function keys do the things like volume up/down and screen brightness up/down etc.
<novakane> k-man: by using the right keys name, e.g https://github.com/riverwm/river/blob/master/example/init#L129-L142
<Guest98> lol
<novakane> :D
<Guest98> I think there's an agreement there :D
<novakane> Guest98: there is not a lot of eye candy thing in river to rice tbh, although there probably some external software that can do some things
<novakane> but I thing ricer are not really the target user for river currently
<novakane> s/thing/think/
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<k-man> hmm when i put my keys in not fn key mode, only the mic mute seems to send events (using xev
<k-man> to check
<novakane> you need wev for that
<k-man> ah or course
<k-man> f1 f2 and f3 do not send any event - the others work
<k-man> those keys are mute, -vol and +vol
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<k-man> anyway - i'm off to bed. thanks for the help people
<novakane> k-man: you may need to use river passthrough mode to get all events
<novakane> i.e using Super+F11 if you use the example config with the focus on wev window
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<k-man> thanks novakane, i gave that a go but still no response from those keys
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<k-man> how do i run programs like swaybar?
<k-man> do i launch them from the init script? and launch how?
<leon-p> k-man: if a keypress does not pop up in wev, you may already have an active keybind on it. River only sends key presses to clients which do not have binds
<k-man> hmm
<k-man> oh
<k-man> where does river log to by default?
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<leon-p> stderr
<k-man> so if it starts from gdm, logs should be in journalctl
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<leon-p> I don't think we really log anything on keypress though, so this may not be very helpful
<leon-p> we probably should log if river spawns something, might submit a PR tomorrow
<k-man> leon-p: oh - i thought if i press a key that is bound to spawn something, and that spawn causes an error? (like spawn pamixer but pamixer is not found) it might log something?
<leon-p> 🤷
<leon-p> or just try the command in the terminal?
<k-man> oh good idea
<k-man> lok
<k-man> lol
<k-man> well it works - no error
<k-man> hmm
<k-man> telegram won't open. it just sits and doesn't show a window
<k-man> leon-p: ok, you were correct, the keys are working.
<k-man> i managed to use wpctrl to set volume
<k-man> oh - light is considered orphaned
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<NickH> I use wlopm when I want the screens blanked but not locked.
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