ifreund changed the topic of #river to: river - a dynamic tiling wayland compositor || https://github.com/riverwm/river || channel logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/river/
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<leon-p> ok, so i finally get a split keyboard, turns out both halfs register as separate keyboards and now no keybinds work -_-
<n0r> Oh no. Just the river keybinds or do applications see a difference too?
<leon-p> everywhere, since river does not propagate the modifiers.
<leon-p> i remember sway having a keyboard group feature. guess i'll add that to river now too
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<akumar[m]> Do things like LShift+K and keys in vim also break?
<akumar[m]> Might as well buy a cheaper second keyboard
<leon-p> shift is a modifier just like the others, so yeah that doesn't work
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<akumar[m]> Lol. That's super odd.. Wouldn't occur to me to do that if I were to design a split keyboard
<plumeus> what kind of split keyboard?
<plumeus> I've been eyeing https://keeb.io/collections/iris-split-ergonomic-keyboard for a while
<tleydxdy[m]> yeah there gotta be a way to have them appear as one
<plumeus> I've also wanted to try Stenography but River doesn't support the input_method protocol
<leon-p> its a cheapo one i saw at a store and wanted to try (literally anything would have been an upgrade to my old keyboard). Apparently each half is its own keyboard and one of them simply has a hub build in
<leon-p> and yes, you can combine them. wlroots has keyboard groups. it works OOTB in sway. now i have to figure out how to wire that up in river
<leon-p> ah, sway apparently just shares modifiers between all keyboards of a seat. that is of course a lot easier to implement
<n0r> Every browsers screensharing is weird for me right now, each in a different way. Ungoogled Chromium shifts each pixel row a few more pixels to the left than the one above it, so its unusable. Librewolf shows a frozen image, from whe screensharing started. And Firefox does work and is usable, but shows an annoying additional frozen mouse pointer. What is going on here? :/
<n0r> s/whe/when
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<leon-p> managed to get keyboard groups working, will submit a draft PR in a few minutes
<leon-p> but there is still one oddity: when typing on both halfs, river sometimes pauses for a short while and then after about ~0.3 seconds catches up again.
<leon-p> this does not happen in sway
<dnkl> leon-p: nice!
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<leon-p> (testing appreciated btw :)
<ifreund> leon-p: haven't looked into the details of this stuff yet, what's the advantage of a keyboard group over sharing the modifiers between keyboards on the same seat?
<leon-p> honestly no idea. I am actually not too sure how sway does it and in retrospect would like to retract the statements I made about that, the code is a bit too complex to understand it in one sitting.
<leon-p> although I think from an impl. POV keybaord groups are simpler, maybe
<ifreund> could very well be the case, sway's input code is probably the messiest part of their codebase and not something we should consider "best practices" without understanding and weighing the tradeoffs
<ifreund> the keyboard group implementation doesn't look too bad, I'll need to take a look at what wlroots is actually doing with them under the hood to make sure I understand things though
<leon-p> do you have any idea on what could cause the occasional input delay? Happens on both master and with my patch. Can be very relianly reproduced by typing on two separate keyboards, even if in the same input group.
<ifreund> leon-p: nope, no idea sorry
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<leon-p> hmm... seems like it only happens in foot.
<leon-p> yeah, fine in alacritty and gedit
<leon-p> and fine in fuzzel as well, huh
<leon-p> huh, so foot warns about "warn: key-binding.c:345: Shift+Mod1+J: combo with both explicit modifier and shifted symbol (level=1, mod-mask=0x00000001), replacing with j
<leon-p> " a lot
<leon-p> which is weird, because I did not press that
<leon-p> wev doesn't show show anything odd
<leon-p> dnkl: maybe a foot issue?
<dnkl> leon-p: it does that when loading a keymap
<dnkl> it says your binding is invalid
<dnkl> because you have both shift and upper case J
<leon-p> hmm... does it really reload the bindings multiple times a second?
<dnkl> when the compositor sends a keymap
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<leon-p> huh, so river apparently sends keymaps very often.
<leon-p> that's a bit unfortunate
<dnkl> WAYLAND_DEBUG... ;)
<dnkl> don't think it does that "normally"?
<dnkl> it's not something I've observed
<leon-p> probably because it sends it for each keyboard
<leon-p> I'll have to come up with some code that avoid sending the keymap if two keyboards have the same
<dnkl> yeah, when I briefly tested two keyboards I noticed a new keymap was sent every time you switched keyboard
<dnkl> that is, every time a key press/release was from a different keyboard than last press/release event
<tleydxdy[m]> is this something in wlroots?
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<leon-p> the solution I have come up with is using the key and mod listeners of the keyboard group and registering individual keyboard listeners only when they are not in a group. It's a bit annoying, but necessary I think. Will continue tomorrow.
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<n0r> So by now I looked into all compositors NixOS repo has (which are quite a few actually) and none of them convinced me enough to switch. Guess I'll just continue to use river the completely wrong way :P Just wanna say thanks guys for accidentally creating the 'floating' wm that suits me best <3
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<ifreund> n0r: that's nice to hear, guess that means we're doing something right :D I think that river's future evolution should make what you're doing a bit more comfortable, at least when I find time to make that evolution happen...
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<jao> ifreund, i for one, and talking as a newcomer, am already looking forward to that evolution: i've been having lots of fun these last two days with river, and it's suiting my needs quite well (but of course, nothing is perfect :)) thanks!
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