ifreund changed the topic of #river to: river - a dynamic tiling wayland compositor || https://github.com/riverwm/river || channel logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/river/
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<talismanick> Are there eGPUs which work with River?
<talismanick> https://github.com/hertg/egpu-switcher needs Xserver, for instance
<talismanick> nvm, looks like it's compositor-specific (although I guess I should check wlroots to see if they're working on it)
<talismanick> Is it inadvisable to set WLR_RENDERER=vulkan? At what level of abstraction do such graphics concerns exit the domain of wlroots and fall under river's purview?
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<ifreund> talismanick: I wouldn't recommend using the wlroots vulkan renderer yet, it's not very mature.
<ifreund> talismanick: this is the abstraction river uses to interact with wlroots's renderer
<ifreund> talismanick: also I'm pretty sure wlroots supports external gpus already, though I have no experience using one myself
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<talismanick> ifreund: Okay, thanks for the details
<talismanick> Hm. I wonder if there's a less goofy way to detect apps using XWayland than xeyes
<novakane> building river without xwayland and see what you can't launch anymore :P
<talismanick> novakane: For the moment, I'm testing things out, but if push comes to shove, I could get away with Emacs and Firefox exclusively
<talismanick> and dmenu_wl or a terminal to launch them
<talismanick> Quite happy with the general state of things, my whinging notwithstanding
<novakane> I only have firefox as a gui app, everything else is done with foot
<talismanick> Only other GUI apps I regularly open are Signal (bleh) and Pavucontrol (still haven't found a reliable terminal or Emacs alternative)
<talismanick> Wayland has proven to be a useful chastity belt, though - I can't launch Kerbal Space Program
<novakane> pamixer works fine for me
<novakane> I don't have a complex utilisation for it though
<novakane> s/utilisation/usage/
<talismanick> Yeah. I use that with the default keys, but fall back to Pavu for fancier config
<talismanick> e.g. plugging into another computer to present with video
<talismanick> On which note, pipewire is a godsend. I can't imagine PulseAudio ever "just working" for that
<novakane> true, really nicer to have instead of alsa/pulseaudio
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<leon-p> talismanick: you can use `xlsclients` to list all X11 clients.
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<ifreund> xeyes is my preferred way as well :D
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<nor[m]> Can I map scrolling? The Idea is to map Mod4 and Scrolling up and down to cycle through windows.
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<ifreund> nor[m]: it would be technically possible but that's not currently implemented, no
<nor[m]> Alright, thanks for answering.
<tbss[m]> Tje river its desactualized in void linux
<tbss[m]> s/Tje/The/
<novakane> yes because void doesn't have zig 0.9
<tbss[m]> ?
<tbss[m]> some forecast for your update
<ifreund> I've got better things to do than try to push the llvm update for void forward without merge rights
<ifreund> if they merge the llvm13 PR the river update is already included in a patch I sent
<ifreund> if they merge the llvm 14 one I might package llvm 13/zig 0.9 or I might wait for zig 0.10, it depends on how long it takes
<ifreund> my recommendation on void is to grab a static zig 0.9 tarball from ziglang.org/download and build river from source
<tbss[m]> <ifreund> "my recommendation on void is..." <- I don't mind waiting
<tbss[m]> In fact, until the river is well developed,I don't mind oar bspwm until the xorg dies
<novakane> river is well developped and stable for daily use
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<tbss[m]> <novakane> "river is well developped and..." <- but I believe there are still little things to improve
<novakane> always the case
<nor[m]> <tbss[m]> "but I believe there are still..." <- Name an unimprovable perfect piece of software ;)
<tbss[m]> even a perfect software can improve
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<novakane> oh, interesting
<nor[m]> How big of a deal is this? Is this like "improvement in a specific area" or more like "nvidia and tux are suddenly good friends"?
<ifreund> only the kernel side of things is open source, the userland drivers are still closed source
<ifreund> this probably means that nouveau developers will have a much easier time making nouveau better though
<tbss[m]> In river the problens are gnone aplicacion without wlroots suporte for example gnome disk,and nvidia suport
<tbss[m]> tbss[m]: The last can improvenments
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