14:15 <abu[7]> n

14:15 <abu[7]> oops

16:27 <diogenes> so i did not realise that i have been disconnected the entire time

16:28 <diogenes> i was wondering why there was no response

16:28 <bjorkint0sh> diogenes: so who were you talking to in the mean time?

16:28 <diogenes> i just posted and thought everyone was afk

16:29 <diogenes> but i just added the stuff that i learned while debugging so that people could see it in the future

16:29 <diogenes> lol

16:31 <diogenes> https://pastebin.com/Jp4iN5Yv this is the paste bin with my previous error, i have since moved past this though by deleting linuxbrew which was causing issues. Linuxbrew had an installation of clang which seemed to cause conflicts.

16:31 <diogenes> That said the issues is not yet resolved and I got other errors now.

16:31 <diogenes> llc: error: llc: picolisp.bc: error: Opaque

16:31 <diogenes> pointers are only supported in -opaque-pointers

16:31 <diogenes> mode (Producer: 'LLVM18.1.8' Reader: 'LLVM

16:31 <diogenes> 14.0.0')

16:33 <diogenes> this was the next error that I recieved, i figured that to resolve this i should add the opaque-pointer flag to the binary, this did not work i just got another error. Instead, i figured installing a new version of llvm was the solution

16:33 <abu[7]> LLVM is 14, right?

16:33 <diogenes> yes

16:33 <abu[7]> Perhaps tankf33der has an idea, he tested many s

16:34 <diogenes> I installed the latest version of llvm and clang, then i changed the make file to refer to this local installation. this did not work

16:34 <abu[7]> on many systems

16:34 <diogenes> got it, i am interested in asking anyone that can help

16:35 <abu[7]> tankf33der here? o/

16:36 <abu[7]> Let's wait a little ;)

16:37 <diogenes> yeah. tankf33der, I have ended up with this error by the way: clang+llvm-18.1.8-x86_64-linux-gnu-ubuntu-18.04/bin/llc: error while loading shared libraries: libtinfo.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

16:37 <diogenes> make: *** [Makefile:39: ../bin/picolisp] Error 127

16:38 <abu[7]> Oh, 18 ... did he test it already?

16:40 <diogenes> i just tried it doesn't seem to work on my machine. I might spin up a ubuntu vm and test there to see if i can get it working there

16:40 <abu[7]> On 2024-06-28 he wrote "llvm 8,13,15,16,18,19 - opt1-3 - ok"

16:41 <diogenes> but not 14 hahh

16:42 <abu[7]> 14 is common, used to work

16:43 <abu[7]> I have 18 on Termux and 16 on Debian

16:47 <beneroth> diogenes, I think the server kicked you

16:47 <beneroth> <diogenes> 4

16:47 <beneroth> * diogenes hat die Verbindung getrennt (Excess Flood).

16:48 <diogenes> yeah i tried to post my error and got kicked

16:48 <beneroth> I have no ideas where the limits are

16:48 <diogenes> i know to put stuff in a pastebin from now on

16:48 <beneroth> linuxbrew is the same thing as homebrew on mac?

16:49 <diogenes> pretty much, i think there might be some diffs but not sure since i have never used a mac before

16:49 <beneroth> why do you use it?

16:49 <beneroth> seriously curious :)

16:49 <diogenes> just has some binaries that are newer than deb

16:49 <beneroth> ah ok

16:49 <beneroth> you know about their telemetry spying?

16:50 <diogenes> no

16:50 <diogenes> when did that happen

16:50 <beneroth> dunno if its in the linux version too, but I'd assume so. Stirred a bit of surprise when users found it in the mac version.

16:50 <beneroth> some years ago already. they kept it. I think the CLI asks you once in non-obvious terms for your consent.

16:51 <diogenes> don't remember that for linuxbrew but it has been quite a while since i installed it

16:51 <beneroth> https://docs.brew.sh/Analytics

16:52 <beneroth> also they had vulnerabilities in their repos in the past, which allowed malware into the repo and on the homebrew client:

16:52 <beneroth> https://blog.ryotak.net/post/homebrew-security-incident-en/

16:53 <diogenes> damn thanks for the resources

16:53 <beneroth> so.. as far as package managers go, not as bad as NPM, but not much better

16:53 <beneroth> you're welcome :)

16:55 <beneroth> I find it quite unfortunate, because especially for MacOS where there is not really a standard package manager it would be very useful.

16:56 <beneroth> but with this issues I want to avoid it

18:47 <tankf33der> here

18:47 <tankf33der> hi all

18:47 <abu[7]> Hi tankf33der! Nice to see you!

18:48 <abu[7]> diogenes is gone

18:49 <abu[7]> Do you have any idea what goes wrong?

18:49 <tankf33der> impossible without his replies :)

18:49 <abu[7]> T

18:50 <abu[7]> np

18:50 <tankf33der> afk

18:50 <abu[7]> o/

19:24 <diogenes> hry

19:24 <diogenes> hey

19:25 <diogenes> I saw that tank is here?

19:25 <abu[7]> Yes, but left already ;)

19:26 <diogenes> rip

19:26 <abu[7]> Maybe tomorrow ... ?

19:27 <diogenes> yeah seems like a good idea. gives me time to try any wacky stuff I need to anyway

19:27 <abu[7]> Perfect