08:55 <razzy> hmm, i want to replace something in quote. (de foo (X) '(print "mine replacable X")) is curry best choice?

08:57 <Regenaxer> If you want to *build* a function, 'curry' is the easiest, yes. Just replacing something mighy be easier depending on the case.

09:19 <hunar> Hi everyone :) I saw the function permute somewhere, but when I (load "@lib/simul.l") then use it, it says permute -- Undefined

09:20 <Regenaxer> It is a separate namespace

09:20 <Regenaxer> (simul~permute ...

09:20 <Regenaxer> or (symbols '(simul pico)) (permute ...

09:21 <hunar> Aaaa :) thanks.. can I import the functions such that I don't need the namespace?

09:21 <Regenaxer> For example, chess uses (symbols '(chess simul pico))

09:22 <Regenaxer> yes, 'import' is also good

09:24 <Regenaxer> src/lib/llvm.l uses import a lot

09:28 <hunar> Aaaaa so that's what symbols do, I see it everywhere in other codes

09:32 <hunar> How should I use import , I did (load "@lib/simul.l") (import simul~permute) and it said "permute" -- Import conflict

09:34 <Regenaxer> You must already have created a symbol 'permute' in the current namespace (= pico), e.g. because you entered it in the reader

09:36 <hunar> Sorry, I didn't understand :/ I started a fresh pil then wrote those

09:36 <hunar> hunar@8000:~$ pil

09:36 <hunar> : (load "@lib/simul.l") (import simul~permute)

09:36 <hunar> "permute" -- Import conflict

09:38 <Regenaxer> You are right, it exists already:

09:38 <Regenaxer> $ ./pil +

09:38 <Regenaxer> : (what "permute")

09:38 <Regenaxer> -> (permute)

09:38 <Regenaxer> I think because of Pilog

09:39 <Regenaxer> : (show 'permute)

09:39 <Regenaxer> permute NIL

09:39 <Regenaxer> *Dbg (NIL (T 136 "lib/pilog.l" pico))

09:39 <Regenaxer> T ((((@X) (@X))) ((@L (@X . @Y)) (delete @X @L @D) (permute @D @Y)))

09:39 <Regenaxer> -> permute

09:39 <Regenaxer> So this is where the reader got it from

09:39 <hunar> Can I rename it? in python I could do from math import sqrt as sqt

09:40 <Regenaxer> yes, (def 'myPermute simul~permute)

09:40 <hunar> Cool :)

09:42 <hunar> So (symbols 'simul) would replace conflicting names without warning

09:42 <Regenaxer> No, it does not replace anything. I just changes the reader's search order

09:43 <Regenaxer> (symbols 'simul) would be bad btw

09:43 <Regenaxer> It cuts off 'pico'

09:43 <razzy> hmm, this works (in '("sh" "-c" "cat .pilrc") (while (read) (print @] and this does not (in (pack "sh " "-c " "cat .pilrc") (while (read) (print @] i do not know why :D

09:43 <Regenaxer> So even 'symbols' is no longer known

09:44 <Regenaxer> razzy: (in (pack ... passes a *symbol* to 'in'

09:49 <razzy> Regenaxer: i do not understand.

09:51 <razzy> can i fix it?

10:08 <razzy> solved it. but i do not know why it was not working and why it works now.

10:12 <hunar> It cuts off 'pico' Ah now I get the full picture :)

10:27 <razzy> eh, premature celebration.

10:30 <Regenaxer> razzy: (doc 'in)