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<dsc_> arno11: kinetic scrolling now
<dsc_> and text selecting
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<arno11> dsc_: it works perfectly :) thx again
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<arno11> Wizzup: hi, i need another kick for maemo-gpt plz (added icon and remove links dep)
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<arno11> (i don't have privs for it in jenkins, same for picodrive btw)
<arno11> i built drnoksnes this morning, no issue for armhf but launcher is still broken because of osso-games-startup .launch issue
<Wizzup> ack
<Wizzup> will see if I can find a more permanent solution
<arno11> ok
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<arno11> btw, currently building -locally- last netsurf dev stuff: apparently js is supposed to 'work' quite fine on low power devices...let's see on n900
<Wizzup> cool
<arno11> dsc_: even with a build in background, conv_slim is still fast and smooth on my n900 :)
<sicelo> is it just my N900 or we have some tz issues in daedalus? `date` (and logs, etc.) show timestamps in my local time (UTC+2)
<sicelo> but the hildon clock shows it in UTC
<arno11> sicelo: seems ok on my device
<sicelo> maybe something went out of sync here. I think i've resolved it now
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<sicelo> has anyone made successful calls with tp-rakia + vcm? In my case, sphone crashes all the time
<sicelo> Using vcm from dbus seems to work, but then no audio both ways
<sicelo> arno11: what ucm profile do you use with Twinkle? HiFi, I guess?
<arno11> sicelo: twinkle works with both hifi and voicecall
<arno11> weird @no audio btw.
<arno11> i didn't try sip with vcm and daedalus btw
<arno11> maybe another PA issue (like ringtone apparently)
<arno11> will try sip soon to confirm
<dsc_> arno11: can also disable avatars ;)
<arno11> as you want, but not sure it will make a huge diff. it works fine actually
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<arno11> sicelo: at least, rakia + vcm was ok on chimaera
<sicelo> could also be my SIP server of course, but I think it's behaving correctly. I'll login to it and capture the rtp stream
<arno11> ok (currently testing)
<arno11> but still building netsurf in background lol
<sicelo> ;-)
<sicelo> otherwise I'm happily daily driving the N900, receiving/making multiple phone calls each day
<arno11> cool :)
<arno11> no sound with sip for me too, but no sphone crash
<arno11> hmm no crash, but it fails to show backends in gui anymore
<arno11> something seems wrong with sphone
<arno11> i still use 0.9.5 btw
<arno11> the same version worked fine in chimaera
<arno11> will try twinkle with same sip accounts a bit later
<sicelo> the 'contacts backends' issue? so you're having it with 0.9.5?
<arno11> no that's a diff. issue, contacts backend is fine for me
<arno11> *in 0.9.5
<arno11> actually when i launch the dialer i can't choose sip backend
<sicelo> is the account activated and online? you may have to restart sphone for it to show the sip backend
<arno11> yeah the account is active and online ofโ‚ฌ
<arno11> *ofc
<arno11> no the backend was visible, able to make a call and then backend disappeared
<arno11> *call with no sound
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<dsc_> arno11: I mean, avatars can be disabled in the settings, and that saves a few kb of RAM
<dsc_> :P
<arno11> ah ok, fair enough :P
<arno11> sicelo: twinkle-console still works amazingly well (call between 2 bad hsdpa networks)
<sicelo> Wizzup: uvos: so sphone has the 'contacts' backend issue because it wants libebook-1.2.so.20 which is provided by libebook-1.2-20. in daedalus, we now have libebook-1.2-21, which provides libebook-1.2.so.21
<arno11> ah ok
<sicelo> arno11: nice! so you were using twinkle-console? not the GUI?
<arno11> @sphone: maybe we have this kind of issue with PA module as well
<arno11> sicelo: @twinkle, yeah i prefer twinkle console
<sicelo> Wizzup: no idea why sphone has been working fine so far though ... i don't think that lib changed recently
<sicelo> dsc_: ah, thanks!
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* sicelo looks at D4, then an idle BL-5J, and has a naughty idea ...
<sicelo> too thick ๐Ÿ˜•
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<sicelo> Wizzup: what's the relationship/difference between hildon-meta and hildon-meta-core?
<sicelo> ah, -core is an attempt to end up with a smaller Leste installation ootb?
<sicelo> mmm, or hildon-meta is on the way out, and -core is the one to use?
<sicelo> maybe i should explain why i'm asking - now that i think i'm done with the upower stuff (and its friends), i'm thinking about the Librem5 again ... will need a meta-librem5 naturally
<Wizzup> sicelo: both will remain, hildon-core is to make smaller images
<Wizzup> hildon-meta-core
<Wizzup> hildon-meta is still what we'll use in the future
<sicelo> so for now i'd need to add n l5-meta to both?
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<arno11> netsurf feedback: indeed js 'works', able to log on some online accounts where js is needed. google search and google news work without js errors
<arno11> it is not as fast as new dillo but i built netsurf without any optimisation
<arno11> and it is quite already usable
<sicelo> i tried (on pc) with on github ... which sites did you try
<arno11> i.e amazon
<arno11> uh, indeed github is...buggy
<arno11> but able to login
<arno11> like the old version, NS needs a proper config file imo
<arno11> gmail seems to work
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<arno11> hmm in fact not...
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