#maemo-leste on 2025-04-01 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-08-13 21:41 Wizzup changed the topic of #maemo-leste to: Maemo Leste is in alpha: https://maemo-leste.github.io | ML: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/maemo-leste.en.html | Latest status: http://tny.im/v0T | Wiki: https://leste.maemo.org | IRC: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/maemo-leste/ ; https://maedevu.maemo.org/irc.txt

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06:06 <mkf> gday

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08:28 <halftux> Wizzup: raspi3 image has to small bootfs for updateing initrd I am building a new image also added some extra packages

08:30 <halftux> I am using debian rootfs size which is 508M and starts at 8192

08:30 <Wizzup> you mean that we do need a boot partition, or a smaller one, or?

08:31 <halftux> a bigger boot partition

08:31 <halftux> copy initrd to bak and creating new one consumes much space

08:34 <halftux> so all packages which are running update-initramfs will fail at the moment

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08:42 <Wizzup> ok

08:42 <Wizzup> right, we can increase that no problem

08:42 <halftux> not rootfs bootfs size starts at 8192 with 508M

08:43 <Wizzup> right

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10:02 <halftux> Wizzup: do you know what causes that for the time in hildon I see wdgt_va_12h_hours and the raspi3 image gets also missing locale warnings

10:02 <Wizzup> I didn't have that on the pi but it means either locales weren't generated or the translation packages aren't installed

10:04 <mkf> hm, sunxi fw is not much of help.

10:05 <mkf> it indeed is tied to BSP kernel

10:06 <mkf> Wizzup, fmg, do you mind if i clean up https://leste.maemo.org/A33-TurboX-Twister a bit?

10:06 <Wizzup> sure, do you have a way to test things, or?

10:07 <mkf> just wiki stuff, nothing about the hardware.

10:07 <mkf> links, html, etc

10:08 <Wizzup> sure, please go ahead

10:08 <Wizzup> no need to ask imo, but appreciate asking any way

10:08 <mkf> cool. :-)

10:09 <Wizzup> I hope to ultimately have some of this here http://maemo-leste-manual.motionlibre.org/

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10:12 <mkf> looking forward to it. :)

10:12 <mkf> i love offline manuals

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11:06 <mkf> odd, external links icon is not shown in wiki

11:08 <mkf> nice, maemo theme is installed. cool.

11:34 <mkf> is 64Mb of ram enough for leste?

11:35 <mkf> likely not, but still i wonder if someone had an adventure with extemely low ram machine/setup

11:40 <Wizzup> 64Mb definitely not, 64MB also likely not

11:40 <mkf> MB

11:40 <Wizzup> maybe with a ton of swap

11:41 <mkf> i see.

11:42 <Wizzup> you can look at n900, default maemo uses about ~130MB of ram or so

11:42 <mkf> n900 lacking ram was apperently a blessing for me. :)

11:42 <Wizzup> maybe if you strip out a lot, but if a device has just 64MB of ram I don't think such a device will have enough cpu or even 3d capabilities

11:43 <mkf> possible, lemme see.

11:43 <mkf> yeah seems no gpu

11:55 <buZz> which device has no gpu?

12:04 <mkf> allwinner v3s boards

12:06 <mkf> Wizzup: can we roll an image for real hw amd64?

12:07 <Wizzup> is it different from the vm images?

12:07 <mkf> might be, i tried few months ago but every time i've converted vm images to raw imgs and dd it to a usb, it didnt worked very well on my x230

12:09 <Wizzup> I am not sure what else we'd do tbh

12:10 <mkf> i've seen an image of someone's x230 during fosedom 2019, was that on baremetal or qemu

12:11 <Wizzup> If that was my presentation, I think that was qemu

12:11 <Wizzup> just full screen

12:12 <mkf> ok

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14:52 <halftux> Wizzup: If there is some time could you build a new raspi3 image with the changes from https://git.maemo.org/leste/bugtracker/issues/758 please.

14:52 <halftux> If you like you could also increase the graphics memory.

15:00 <Wizzup> will do, I wonder if it makes sense to also use my current image to see if we can figure out how to get it to work without manual changes

15:00 <Wizzup> btw, we should make hildon-meta-raspberrypi depend on these kernel and firmware packages

15:00 <Wizzup> I can do that

15:02 <halftux> sure we can wait until you find a solution for the dtb files

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19:25 <mkf> hi

19:27 <Wizzup> hi

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20:36 <arno11> Wizzup: maemo-gpt seems ready to build :)

20:36 <arno11> at least deb pkg works fine with local build

20:46 <Wizzup> cool, will set up ci/cd

20:48 <Wizzup> added, will fix jenkins perms a bit later, do you want me to kick off a ci build?

20:49 <arno11> i forgot to create chimaera/daedalus branches btw :P

20:49 <arno11> @ci build it can wait (a bit late)

20:53 <arno11> @branch, fixed

21:05 <arno11> it failed in jenkins, i probably forgot a dep in debian/control. will have a look tomorrow

21:07 <arno11> (yeah seems some gtk2 libs)

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