#maemo-leste on 2024-11-05 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-08-13 21:41 Wizzup changed the topic of #maemo-leste to: Maemo Leste is in alpha: https://maemo-leste.github.io | ML: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/maemo-leste.en.html | Latest status: http://tny.im/v0T | Wiki: https://leste.maemo.org | IRC: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/maemo-leste/ ; https://maedevu.maemo.org/irc.txt

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14:04 <freemangordon> Wizzup: please upgrade, abook issues should be fixed

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14:28 <arno11> freemangordon: yeah abook seems fine now with phone number in the correct field and icons for call and sms when i click on a recent contact, thx

14:29 <freemangordon> there are still issues, but those are result of the rtcomel data that is stored by the sphone plugin, unless I am missing something

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14:53 <jk_000> hello! 0/ and thanx for the great maemo-leste!! I recently got it running in my old n900 and I am amazed :)

14:54 <freemangordon> :)

14:54 <jk_000> ... but I am wondering, how does overclocking work? I remember that back in the day there was this application to increase to 800MHz and some oder parameters. now I am tryinf to use cpupower form terminal, but w/o success

14:54 <freemangordon> arno11: ^^^

14:55 <arno11> jk_000: hi

14:56 <arno11> you don't need specific tools to overclock

14:56 <jk_000> arno11: hi :)

14:56 <jk_000> that sounds great

14:56 <arno11> we use cpufreq boost

14:56 <arno11> youk just need to enable it

14:56 <jk_000> rc-wise?

14:57 <arno11> let me found the wiki link

14:57 <jk_000> oh, perfect! thanx!

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14:59 <arno11> https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900#Overclocking_.28optional.29

15:00 <arno11> (see Overclocking(optional))

15:00 <arno11> remember that it is back to stock freqs on every boot

15:00 <jk_000> arno11: nice!

15:01 <jk_000> alright...

15:02 <arno11> i know...but overclock is unstable on boot on lot of devices

15:04 <arno11> i recommend you to have a look at Tips / Tweaks in the wiki as well

15:04 <jk_000> yeah, I think it is better to keep it like that, lost after reboot

15:05 <jk_000> I will have a look at that!

15:05 <jk_000> hhjmm... "bash: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/boost: Permission denied"

15:05 <arno11> you have to upgrade to devel first

15:05 <jk_000> both after `$ sudo su` and `$ su`

15:05 <jk_000> oh! hehe

15:05 <jk_000> :P

15:06 <arno11> see tips / tweak to upgrade to devel

15:07 <arno11> warning: do not delete anything in apt/sources

15:07 <arno11> just add devel stuff

15:07 <arno11> and dist-upgrade

15:08 <arno11> (and apt update before ofc)

15:08 <jk_000> yes, perfect!

15:08 <freemangordon> arno11: dist-upgrade?

15:08 <freemangordon> why i sthat?

15:09 <freemangordon> sudo apt upgrade should work, no?

15:09 <arno11> not enough iirc

15:09 <freemangordon> hmm, ok

15:11 <arno11> jk_000: btw you don't really need to overclock if you upgrade to devel and follow tips in the wiki

15:11 <arno11> it should be fast enough

15:12 <arno11> excepting for pcsx or perhaps for telegram/sip/xmpp calls

15:12 <jk_000> arno11: oh, really? that sounds even better

15:12 <jk_000> ok

15:12 <arno11> at least with a fast sd card

15:13 <arno11> that's the most important thing imo

15:13 <jk_000> I think I do have a U3... but might need to check once I take it out

15:14 <arno11> u3 is perfect

15:14 <jk_000> ... about swap, where is /dev/mmcblk1p3? in the internal MMC?

15:14 <arno11> yes but once in devel it is sd swap

15:14 <freemangordon> arno11: I think we reverted that

15:14 <jk_000> ok... why not use zram?

15:14 <freemangordon> weak cpu

15:15 <jk_000> I see

15:15 <arno11> zram is to slow indeed

15:15 <arno11> freemangordon: nope, we kept sd swap

15:15 <freemangordon> hmm, ok

15:15 <arno11> 30% faster actually

15:15 <freemangordon> I didn't boot my n900 for a while :)

15:15 <arno11> at least on my device

15:16 <arno11> :)

15:18 <jk_000> now I am curious, how fast shoud a cpu be in orther to make zram worth it? or is it then a (at least) two-dimensional dynamic of cpu-clock and ram-clock?

15:20 <arno11> sorry that's over my skills :P

15:23 <jk_000> ^^

15:31 <arno11> jk_000: btw it is possible you see some errors when upgrading to devel. like dbus or gconf or both

15:32 <arno11> please, let us know (at least Wizzup :P)

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15:38 <jk_000> ok

15:40 <jk_000> wizzup: upgrading to devel following the n900 wiki, after "Generating /usr/share/themes/alpha/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.cache" I get some §"(hildon-theme-cacher:15259): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 16:33:25.627: IA__gdk_screen_get_setting: assertion 'GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed"

15:42 <jk_000> after "mkswap: /swap: insecure permissions 0644, 0600 suggested. Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1024 MiB (1073737728 bytes)" there was a "no label, UUID=2011caf1-13a1-4017-a2bc-a514b0363654"

15:43 <jk_000> arno11: apart from that all went smooth with dist-upgrade/full-upgrade

15:43 <arno11> ok so i think that's ok

15:43 <jk_000> ... oh! there is a certificate error

15:44 <jk_000> Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate chain uses not yet valid certificate. Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification.

15:45 <arno11> weird

15:47 <arno11> a certificate error about what ?

15:48 <arno11> did you see some stuff about key expiration ?

15:48 <freemangordon> jk_000: check your system date

15:49 <jk_000> oh! I am on Mon 10 Jan 2000 07:25:24 AM CET haha

15:49 <arno11> lol

15:49 <freemangordon> :)

15:53 <arno11> bbl (kids time)

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15:54 <jk_000> n900 with Linux devuan-n900 6.1.9 ... YEAH! B)

15:54 <dsc_> at least you seem to have survived the year 2000 problem :)

15:56 <freemangordon> jk_000: does not look like -devel device

15:57 <freemangordon> apt-get upgrade now system date is correct

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16:02 <jk_000> oh...

16:03 <jk_000> let me reboot... and recheck

16:04 <jk_000> Linux devuan-n900 6.6.53 B)

16:05 <jk_000> AMAZING

16:06 <freemangordon> yeah, that's better

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16:22 <sicelo> slightly improved dillo, https://www.toomanyatoms.com/software/mobilized_dillo.html ... N900 users may like

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17:25 <jk_000> what is icd2 -l2?

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17:37 <jk_000> wifi-signal-applet is problematic in devel

17:41 <freemangordon> jk_000: Internet Connection Daemon

17:41 <freemangordon> -l2 is loglevel warning(iirc)

17:41 <freemangordon> https://github.com/maemo-leste/icd2

17:42 <freemangordon> 'Connectivity'

17:43 <jk_000> freemangordon: nice! it was using too much cpu, I suppose in combination with wifi-signal-applet

17:43 <freemangordon> afaik wifi-signal-applet is bad even on fremantle

17:43 <freemangordon> icd2 should not use any cpu

17:43 <jk_000> but somehow after a couple of reboots, battery removed it my N900 has stabilized o.O

17:44 <jk_000> oh, I'll dump it

17:44 <jk_000> purge wifi-signal-applet ^^

17:44 <freemangordon> mhm

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17:45 <jk_000> yeah..

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18:56 <sicelo> you don't really need wifi-signal-applet anymore :-)

18:58 <sicelo> if you want to see the strength of the wifi you're connected to, now you can just tap the status bar and the icon (next to name) will show it dynamically

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19:08 <dsc_> one curious thing about telepathy-qt is that the codebase is quite big, but the documentation is very limited

19:09 <dsc_> > Telepathy development was supported by Collabora Ltd.

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19:12 <dsc_> currently I am trying to implement friend requests and presence for XMPP

19:12 <dsc_> its really bad API

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19:23 <freemangordon> we shall become maintainers

19:25 <dsc_> correction: maybe API is fine, but without documentation the only way is to read source and/or look at other implementations

19:43 <sicelo> are there even many implementations?

19:44 <dsc_> some, not a lot. I find them through github search.

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