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<Wizzup> _Gary: sweet, ty
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<uvos__> im suprised you got anywhere with the bionic image on d3
<uvos__> the d3 has half the ram
<uvos__> and thats not detectable at runtime
<Wizzup> I think kexecboot specifically
<uvos__> well we boot the mainline kernel for kexecboot on d3/bionic
<uvos__> so same
<Wizzup> freemangordon: uvos__: others: when should we start working on bookworm?
<Wizzup> I imagine we want to finish a few other things and then go?
<uvos__> Wizzup: i gues it also depends on how intrusive bookworm will be
<uvos__> Wizzup: for sure first we should promote and then wait a bit
<Wizzup> devel->stable you mean?
<uvos__> yeah
<Wizzup> iirc bookworm still has gtk2 which is the biggest thing
<uvos__> gconf stll there?
<uvos__> ok
<uvos__> maybe wont be too bad
<uvos__> did you try latest sphone?
<Wizzup> I upgraded yesterday, didn't use it much yet, but didn't notice a problem yet
<uvos__> it needs a bit of vcm testing before it can be promoted
<Wizzup> I do have to fix/upgrade my db entries from the past versions
<Wizzup> anything in particular I should test?
<uvos__> mainly placeing and reciveing calls
<uvos__> and the logging
<uvos__> i also presume that sphone now starts mutch faster with vcm enabled
<uvos__> it should at least
<uvos__> esp on n900
<Wizzup> ok, I haven't checked yet, but sounds good
<Wizzup> (had a busy few weeks since the new post)
<uvos__> Wizzup: debian testing dose now finally really really removed gconf btw
<uvos__> *has
<uvos__> so bookworm is end of the line here
<Wizzup> not unexpected
<Wizzup> lts support is until 2028 of bookworm though
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<arno11> uvos__: you probably didn't see my previous msgs: sphone is now much much faster to start with vcm on n900 and backend switch is now ok
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<arno11> Wizzup: at least on n900, all devel stuff should be moved to stable imo. (to make it usable ootb)
<arno11> and to avoid very slow first upgrade to devel (a real pita)
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> let me do that now then
<arno11> cool
<arno11> oh, and ucm is still broken
<Wizzup> can you explain how and what I need to do to fix it
<arno11> yep, a wrong typo in last ucm commit broke ucm
<arno11> we need /leste-config/pull/52
<arno11> (my bad)
<Wizzup> no worries, let me merge now
<arno11> ok ty
<Wizzup> building for -devel now
<Wizzup> ty
<uvos__> arno11: great
<uvos__> yeah unfortionatly the QApplication() constructor is really really really slow
<Wizzup> bookworm also has qt5, so we're mostly ok there I think
<uvos__> sphone now avoids doing this by doing a (somewhat complex) chain of forks and sutch
<arno11> ok, it works really well now. ty
<uvos__> we might want to figure out why qt is stalling while inializing itself for so long
<uvos__> still
<Wizzup> stalling, as in doing nothing, or it is busy?
<uvos__> Wizzup: app = QApplication(argv) in python with time suggests its stalling
<Wizzup> you could try not using the maemo plugins for qt, see if it makes a difference
<uvos__> ofc sphone avoiding loading qt at all when signaling itself as it dose now is the best way to do it regardless but for other apps
<Wizzup> (qpa and theming)
<uvos__> Wizzup: i think it makes more sense to look at strace first
<uvos__> but not right now
<Wizzup> they suggest boosters
<Wizzup> (i.e. maemo launcher)
<Wizzup> not sure if relevant though
<uvos__> i mean thats maybe not a huge suprise given that this was written while qt was a nokia project
<uvos__> but yeah, things to explore
<Wizzup> uvos__: did you ever release mce 1.10.10 ?
<uvos__> Wizzup: no idea
<uvos__> did i?
<Wizzup> I don't think so
<Wizzup> but you did bump the changelog
<uvos__> ok
<uvos__> hmm
<uvos__> maybe the build failed for some reason
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<Wizzup> well, the ci is operational again, so you can retry :)
<Wizzup> freemangordon: telepathy-haze maemo/chimaera and maemo/chimaera-devel don't have the same history, can you check and fix? I think we can just replace maemo/chimaera with -devel, but there's a patch you may or may not want to include
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<Wizzup> we're thinking of applying to https://nlnet.nl/mobifree/ - any things that would make sense to propose?
<Wizzup> we're looking at making a working qt mobile version of organicmaps (they have a desktop qt version)
<Wizzup> probably also put the debian migration in there
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<Wizzup> sicelo: which devices did you recommend we try out because it was working decently with pmos?
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<sicelo> as of last few weeks, Pixel 3a seems to be the new star of the mainline world, it seems. also has camera working, very well for that matter. otherwise, OnePlus 6/6T (or some other SDM845) are also not far behind. going back some years, most of the stuff with MSM8916 too, e.g. Samsung A3/A5 (2015)
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<Wizzup> sicelo: do they have calls working?
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<inky> arno11: sorry i had to figure hhat out myself.
<inky> _Gary: someone said d3 doesnt reboot for hours in emergency shell. so i fuess one of the services make it reboot.
<Wizzup> wrong guess I'd say
<inky> i'll try one day to just load wmaker and see dow long will it last. i need to edit sd card on pc and disable hildon.
<Wizzup> you could try to disable the gpu module
<inky> oh. how is it called?
<sicelo> Wizzup: yes @ calls. some even have the eSIM working
<sicelo> of course largely tested with modemmanager, but i think new ofono should support them perfectly fine as well
<inky> interesting, that f and g are close to each other both on qwerty and dvorak. but on dvorak those are in the higher row.
<Wizzup> sicelo: ok, cool
<Wizzup> inky: something with powervr or sgx I am sure
<inky> great, i'll try to find d3 and test.
<inky> today.
<_Gary> inky: yeah I tried to do a shutdown and after 30 minutes gave up and pulled the battery
<_Gary> if you can get wmaker or matchbox to load on sd that would be great...
<Wizzup> guys, the instability problem is not a service of some kind, it's related to voltage/frequency very likely
<Wizzup> so whether you use window maker or something else doesn't matter
<_Gary> okay got it...inky if there is anything d3 related to test I'm in...
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: ok, will have a look
<Wizzup> freemangordon: also see msg regarding next debian
<Wizzup> 11:43 < Wizzup> freemangordon: uvos__: others: when should we start working on bookworm?
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: also is connui-common ready for stable?
<Wizzup> uvos__: nvm looks like 1.10.10 did make it, I must be blind
<Wizzup> mce 1.10.10+m7 (> 1.10.8+m7.1 )
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<arno11> Wizzup: btw i spent a bit of time @vcm sip calls. i got great results for incoming calls, tweaking latency and buffer in farstream. but still got nothing for outgoing (no connection at all)
<arno11> sounds like it still fails to find a common codec
<arno11> weird as it works @incoming. PA seems not involved btw
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<Wizzup> arno11: that is weird yeah
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