01:58 <midfavila> sad_plan: because its a regulated trade here

01:59 <midfavila> you need to take a three year college course and accumulate enough hours to achieve journeyperson status which is like 1600

01:59 <midfavila> and then you need to get a red seal before itll be recognized out of province

02:01 <midfavila> not to mention SK doesnt have schools with locksmithing programmes

02:02 <midfavila> meaning id need to up and fuck off to AB for 5ish years to get a seal

02:03 <midfavila> and tbh if i spent that time on tech shit id get way better returns

02:03 <midfavila> even if i only get two certs a year

02:04 <sad_plan> ah, I see

02:05 <sad_plan> I dont get why its such a cumbersome ordeal to get a locksmith cert though. its not rocket science

02:05 <midfavila> because locksmithing isnt a certificate

02:05 <midfavila> its not a skill you check off

02:06 <midfavila> its an educational standard that encompasses all sorts of "locks", including installation and programming of e.g. biometrics, car shit, safes, and so on

02:06 <midfavila> really any sort of physical security tech

02:06 <midfavila> and its also about guaranteeing you know your stuff

02:07 <midfavila> its not a matter of sitting a couple tests

02:07 <midfavila> 80%+ of trades courses here are hands on

02:08 <sad_plan> hm, here its years in school, and 2(?) years as apprentice. wouldve figured it wouldve been shorter

02:08 <sad_plan> wait no, its 2 years school, not 3

02:09 <sad_plan> hm, seems apprenticeship is actually 3 years. so its still 5. damn

02:09 <midfavila> yeah.

02:10 <midfavila> and during that time id make as much or less than what i do rn

02:10 <midfavila> which is only 36k a year

02:10 <midfavila> 29k after tax

02:10 <midfavila> and id be working way harder

02:11 <sad_plan> but yes you are right, locksmithing isnt just about making a few keys, its all kinds of shit. when you look at it, its actually quite diverse

02:11 <sad_plan> yep

02:11 <midfavila> i bet you with even a fraction of that effort i could get an oscp

02:11 <sad_plan> perhaps

02:11 <midfavila> so im just gonna do that

02:12 <sad_plan> I get that :p

02:12 <midfavila> well fwiw too i dont even need to go that far

02:13 <midfavila> another year of experience, a net+, sec+, and ccna, and i can work for sasktel making ~75k total counting benefits

02:13 <sad_plan> nice

03:14 <riteo> that's the grindset

03:14 <riteo> can't wait to see midfavilla maxing up their XP

03:15 <riteo> (I'm tired AF I swear I'm genuinelly happy that you have a clear plan)

03:15 <riteo> I love gaming

04:05 <midfavila> GAMING

07:22 <sewn> smooch

07:22 <sewn> might make a kiss implementation called that in hare because bore

11:22 <sewn> Den4ikRus:

15:41 <riteo> I approve

15:41 <riteo> sounds cute

15:41 <riteo> UwU

15:45 <sad_plan> sewn: write it in rc instead :D

15:45 <sewn> rc is so weak

15:45 <sewn> i sense that you are more passionate about rc

15:45 <sewn> you do it !

16:16 <sad_plan> nah, rc works just fine. you just gotta be somewhat creative at times :p but yes, youre right, im more passionate about it than you :p I have thought about it, but theres still things im not sure how to translate to rc :p

16:32 <midfavila> if bash is common lisp rc is more of a scheme

16:32 <midfavila> and bourne is like emacs lisp idk

21:03 <midfavila> jesus fucking christ aa

21:03 <midfavila> i wish i had my workstation here

21:04 <midfavila> i can't find anything for the r01's bsp toolchain in source form

21:04 <midfavila> outside of potentially what they have locked behind an illegal EULA