00:48 <asimovsh> I line kiss

00:49 <asimovsh> But is dead in this point

00:49 <asimovsh> The commumity never grow up just keep small

00:50 <asimovsh> The packages numbers are small in community

00:51 <asimovsh> And the repo is all about issues that never have been closed

08:01 <sewn> asimovsh: it's declining

08:01 <sewn> 70% of the kiss users left (me)

09:36 <vbt> anyone know what happened to dylan araps? is he fine?

09:37 <vbt> riteo: dbus is standard but standard need not be good.

10:02 <sewn> vbt: yes he is alive, just on hiatus

10:02 <sewn> vbt: dbus is the only standard that was made at its time that solves the problem it was made for

10:02 <sewn> which is why it's so widespread

10:03 <sewn> but standards need to be well designed and dbus hmmmm idk I don't have much input about it, seems simple enough

11:30 <asimovsh> Yo guys

11:31 <asimovsh> Someone here ever find some way to connect bluetooth devices without dbus?

15:51 <sewn> asimovsh: no

15:51 <sewn> youre gonna use dbus wether you like it or not

15:51 <sewn> its the direction of the post-modern linux desktop

15:57 <sad_plan> it kinda depends on what kind of device you use. some devices comes with a dongle, but also has BT. you can use dongle, but you can also just use BT. using the dongle, would not require dbus