23:02 <lainpants[m]> FYI the website appears to be down, glasgow-embedded.org isn't resolving for me (`SERVFAIL`)

23:15 <whitequark[cis]> opens fine here

23:16 <whitequark[cis]> which DNS provider do you use?

23:29 <lainpants[m]> I tried 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9, and 1.1.1.1

23:31 <wiebel[m]> Resolving fine on all three DNS here in Germany.

23:32 <lainpants[m]> Hmm, it resolves from 4.2.2.1, but not from the others I tried. Interesting

23:32 <kivikakk> i resolve OK on 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1, 8.8.8.8, 9.9.9.9

23:33 <Attie[m]> strange indeed... any opportunity for ISP intercept? any other domains being problematic? any chance for trying externally / DoH / VPN / etc... (for verification)

23:34 <lainpants[m]> Fascinating, ok I'm guessing it's a regional (greater Seattle area) issue. Tried DoH, DoTLS, VPN to another site (also Seattle area, but originating from a datacenter rather than Comcast)

23:37 <Attie[m]> all failed? ... is this an internal / local cache issue?

23:37 <lainpants[m]> Here's the full `dig` output for the error if anyone wants to look into this deeper:... (full message at <https://catircservices.org/_irc/v1/media/download/AXyreUdzCQmESlxS0k3ZC3LvrNN_8_71tdcTmqImx8Mhch64PJHye1lVi_j9adcOX9k-cRZ8B3AHtjNIXugyCY-_8AAAAAAAAGNhdGlyY3NlcnZpY2VzLm9yZy9iSVBpcWZicnFSSFpqbW95UGN2VXZnZW8>)

23:37 <Attie[m]> try +trace ?

23:40 <lainpants[m]> sorry not super familiar with debugging dns, +trace seems to give less info?... (full message at <https://catircservices.org/_irc/v1/media/download/AfFck6-rQv_zsVidxjHK38KSHDuFIx1hYuOrZ1Hozi7rw8lYm-_USiObBtvzWM46CYCcBr8g_hx4X_fif83ercG_8AAAAAAAAGNhdGlyY3NlcnZpY2VzLm9yZy9qUnZQRnZQSmxIaGdUaXpvTEdoZEZKdG4>)

23:40 <Attie[m]> (wildly off-topic now, but i'm intrigued....)

23:41 <Attie[m]> that's odd too - +trace should lookup from "first principles" / the root servers...

23:42 <wiebel[m]> dnstracer -s . -c glasgow-embedded.org shows some very sluggish responses. Not sure if meaningful but it can be that there is an issue with parts of the org tld.

23:42 <lainpants[m]> oh here we go, if I +trace without @8.8.8.8, it will do a full recursive lookup from root servers, and it does succeed. interesting...

23:42 <lainpants[m]> correction: it intermittently fails

23:42 <Attie[m]> 👀

23:43 <lainpants[m]> yeah I'm guessing something upstream is having a bad day