Catherine[m] changed the topic of #glasgow to: digital interface explorer · code https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow · logs https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/glasgow · Matrix #glasgow-interface-explorer:matrix.org · discord https://1bitsquared.com/pages/chat
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<whitequark[cis]> squirrel: nope. libera.chat is about software, after all
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<FireFly> or hardware as the case might be :p
<Raito_Bezarius> isn't hardware just software for sand?
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<esden[m]> Will we have our meeting today? Is everyone available?
<whitequark[cis]> I'm exhausted af
<esden[m]> Ok so you will not be able to finish the firmware issue I assume.
<whitequark[cis]> not today, no
<esden[m]> Monday is a holiday here. So at the moment the earliest the boxes can ship to Mouser is Tuesday.
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<Attie[m]> I'm pretty out of it too... will try to be around, but not much to report from me
<whitequark[cis]> I think we can have a meeting tho
<whitequark[cis]> when is it again
<Attie[m]> 11pm
<Attie[m]> (for us / UK)
<whitequark[cis]> right
whitequark[cis] changed the topic of #glasgow to: digital interface explorer · meetings Saturday 2200 UTC · code https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow · logs https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/glasgow · Matrix #glasgow-interface-explorer:matrix.org · discord https://1bitsquared.com/pages/chat
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<attiegrande[m]> esden (@_discord_269693955338141697:catircservices.org) - any chance we can update the Discord channel's topic to match IRC / Matrix?
<attiegrande[m]> happy to take a mod hat if that would let me / you're willing
<esden[m]> attiegrande (@_discord_654094992221929502:catircservices.org) I changed it and made you a Discord mod.
<Attie[m]> thanks!
<Attie[m]> I'm running a bit late, give me 10mins... sorry!
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<nanographs[m]> Hey all
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<Attie[m]> hi hi
<Attie[m]> @whitequark / @esden / @electronic_eel / @wanda - are you about?
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<Wanda[cis]> I'm here
<Attie[m]> * Catherine / esden / @electronic\_eel / @wanda - are you about?
<Attie[m]> (hi nanographs & Wanda - hope you're well)
<esden[m]> hey, sorry I am here. 🙂
<Attie[m]> no problem
<esden[m]> (had to transfer to the workshop)
<Attie[m]> ha - do you have anything you'd like to bring up on the CS side?
<esden[m]> 1000 cases packed and ready to ship to Mouser
<Attie[m]> 🥳 very exciting - well done!
<whitequark[cis]> sorry i was busy being miserable
<whitequark[cis]> whats up
<Attie[m]> sorry to hear that - just getting together for the meeting
<esden[m]> Glasgows waiting to be reflashed. (The boxes are labeled and fitted with cables, warning cards arrived and ready to join the Glasgows when the time comes)
<nanographs[m]> Warning cards?
<esden[m]> yeah, (Safe use instructions) required by the EU
<Attie[m]> how many Glasgows? (1000x to match the boxes?)
<esden[m]> the left card is what went into the Glasgow case packages.
<esden[m]> The right ones are the "warning cards" as I call them (I know it is wrong)
<esden[m]> still just 200 glasgows
<esden[m]> W need to get the early bird in one chunk out
<esden[m]> to not confuse Mouser
<Attie[m]> great, well done (only wanted the number for the minutes)
<esden[m]> After this weekend wrapping all the remaining details of the mouser shipment I will finally jump on Glasgow manufacturing proper.
<esden[m]> (these boxes are also quite a bit in the way I would love to have them out of the shop :D)
<whitequark[cis]> I'm busy all day tomorrow (friend's relocation continues) so I'm not sure when I'll actually be able to work on the firmware
<whitequark[cis]> on Monday I plan to continue slow descent into alcoholism and also I have work
<Attie[m]> ok - shall we make the call to ship with current firmware, and provide support for Windows users?
<Attie[m]> I'd be happy to make up a video or similar showing the process
<whitequark[cis]> I don't want to.
<Attie[m]> i get that, it's between you and esden
<whitequark[cis]> I'm happy for 1b2 to release an update saying that the shipping continues to be delayed solely because of me
<esden[m]> ok, I will try to reorganize the boxes in a way that they are less in the way. And I will continue waiting.
<whitequark[cis]> thsnk you
<Attie[m]> thanks
<whitequark[cis]> * thank you
<esden[m]> People are not currently breathing down our neck for another update. Also there is no need to throw you under the bus. Cathrine
<esden[m]> I hope the friend's relocation continues relatively smoothly.
<whitequark[cis]> I mentioned slow descent into alcoholism, right?
<whitequark[cis]> today is the first day of the week I wasn't drinking
<whitequark[cis]> I'm currently deliberating whether I want to or not
<esden[m]> you did... I hope it does not actually turn into that.
<Attie[m]> take care of yourself
<whitequark[cis]> who needs a liver anyway~
<esden[m]> look, we are here to support you, not to be a nuscence 🙂
<Attie[m]> following on from previous minutes, esden hows the production testing going?
<esden[m]> I know you have a lot on your plate. Maybe there is a way to delegate she firmware showstopper somehow. I know delegating is also work. So I think we should just be patient. And don't destroy your liver on our behalf. 🙂
<Attie[m]> I presume that you're through the worst of it, as you're prepped to ship?
<esden[m]> I made a risk benefit analysis. I have only tested some most critical parts of the hardware.
<Attie[m]> ok
<esden[m]> It is not on the level I want it to be though. I did not have the time to build the LVDS test adapter. The firmware delay might actually be a good thing and I can order that adapter.
<whitequark[cis]> I don't know anyone both skilled in the art and having free time
<whitequark[cis]> the change is actually relatively straightforward, it just needs someone who knows both 8051 C and USB
<esden[m]> yeah, I don't know either from the top of my head. I did run into someone like that at CCC a few years ago and they fixed a bunch of issues in the sigrok firmware... but I don't have that contact any more...
<Attie[m]> sorry it falls to you wq - i'd be keen to dive in, but really don't have the headspace either right now, so it would likely just bring us both down
<Attie[m]> Wanda i presume no progress on #376?
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<Attie[m]> on a more positive note, since the last meeting, we've merged #357, #362, #369, #372, #373, #384, #389 !
<Wanda[cis]> Attie[m]: I mean, it existing at all is a progress I think?
<Wanda[cis]> but it's untested and absolutely not in mergeable state
<Wanda[cis]> I have other things to be taking care of right now
<Attie[m]> oop! sorry... I was referring to my discarded minutes from a cancelled meeting
<Attie[m]> yes, indeed - well done / thank you!
<Attie[m]> no worries
<Attie[m]> does anyone have anything to add before I close out the minutes?
<whitequark[cis]> maybe record that we've added mods and the moderation policy?
<Attie[m]> sure - not sure if you saw, but esden gave me mod on Discord too
<whitequark[cis]> as in: Catherine moderates channel for policy (which is currently very lax and loosely defined as we haven't really had problem members), Attie, esden, and Wanda moderate channel for abuse
<whitequark[cis]> yep seen that
<Attie[m]> will do, thanks for the words
<esden[m]> I don't think I have anything to add from my end. I appreciate we had the meeting despite all the difficulty. Thank you! 🙂
<Attie[m]> ok, no worries
<Attie[m]> thanks all! i'll get the minutes out in a bit
<_whitenotifier> [glasgow] attie opened pull request #391: meetings: add minutes from 2023-09-02 - https://github.com/GlasgowEmbedded/glasgow/pull/391
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