06:38 <krobelus> there seem to be terminals like conhost that echo DCS sequences, which produces pushback to adopting XTGETTCAP. I wonder if there is a workaround. One idea was to redraw the current line immediately after querying, clearing the echoed sequence

06:46 <krobelus> hmm enabling the alterative screen buffer briefly for sending the queries might work

06:58 <dnkl> perhaps you can combine it with "synchronized updates"? If the terminal supports it, the screen change, or line redraw will never be visible to the user

07:12 <rockorager> I think everyone implementing synchronized updates supports DCS

07:23 <krobelus> dnkl, rockorager: nice that works. We already assume that the terminal can parse CSI+OSC so the synchronized-update query is fine. I think assuming "synchronized updates implies support for DCS" would not be too objectionable. But if it is, we can easily do "begin synchronized update, enable alternate screen, write some DCS sequences, disable alternate screen, end synchronized update". That should

07:23 <krobelus> work everywhere

12:34 <rockorager> krobelus: that sounds like a pretty robust way

18:00 <krobelus> might make sense to add it to neovim too, to avoid config workarounds like https://github.com/neovim/neovim/issues/28776