18:54 <j`ey> is there a way to get the cursor shape? I feel like I read somewhere that you couldn't do that (and maybe with CSI 0 q on foot resets to default, not a blinkin bar)

19:05 <cbb> j`ey: as in query the current cursor shape?

19:05 <j`ey> yeah

19:07 <cbb> foot supports DECRQSS

19:07 <cbb> you can get the cursor shape by using that to query DECSCUSR

19:07 <j`ey> oh I see

19:07 <cbb> search for DECRQSS here: https://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html

19:08 <j`ey> thanks

19:08 <cbb> https://invisible-island.net/xterm/ctlseqs/ctlseqs.html#:~:text=Request%20Status%20String%20(-,DECRQSS,-)%2C%20VT420%20and%20up

19:08 <cbb> j`ey: no problem

19:09 <cbb> but foot does also do the so-called "DECSCUSR 0 hack"

19:10 <cbb> where the 0 value resets the cursor to the default shape

19:10 <j`ey> I had thought that hack might have been because you couldnt get the shape

19:14 <cbb> I get the sense that DECSCUSR was originally intended for the user (like as a preference) rather than by client apps

19:14 <cbb> for client apps*

19:15 <cbb> hence the lack of clarity in the DEC manuals

19:15 <cbb> and the ambiguity with DECSCUSR 0

19:21 <cbb> but the interpretation that it's a "hack" is debateable

19:22 <cbb> hence why I used scare quotes