13:34 <dustymabe> jlebon: travier[m]: any idea why the presets didn't enable the service in https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-coreos-next-stream-rebasing-to-fedora-linux-38/79276/11

13:35 <dustymabe> Silverblue ^^

13:48 <travier[m]> dustymabe: we don't preset all in silverblue/kinoite like we do in FCOS

13:49 <travier[m]> https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/77

13:50 <walters> And we don't because it'd break Anaconda which doesn't write presets today for the services kickstart line, not to mention all the people doing systemctl enable foo in %post

13:51 <walters> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8268#issuecomment-410099538

13:51 <walters> Also https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8268#issuecomment-410234221

13:52 <jlebon> travier[m]: we don't preset-all client-side, but we do ship enablement symlinks in the ostree

13:53 <jlebon> (unlike in FCOS)

13:53 <jlebon> this sounds more like we're missing a call to a systemd RPM macro to apply the preset?

13:53 <travier[m]> WDYT mean by client side?

13:53 <dustymabe> travier[m]: I was just trying to follow the packaging guidelines by putting the enablement in the presets file

13:54 <walters> commented in the BZ

13:54 <travier[m]> The only system where presets are re-applied after the first boot right now in Fedora is FCOS

13:54 <travier[m]> nobody else does it

13:54 <travier[m]> AFAIK

13:54 <travier[m]> "re-applied" because it's part of the ostree commit

13:55 <jlebon> e.g. on my silverblue, if i do `ls -l /usr/lib/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/`, there's lots of stuff there

13:56 <jlebon> what bugzilla are we looking at?

13:56 <dustymabe> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172956

13:57 <travier[m]> in FCOS we do ship the enablement symlinks in the comit AFAIk

13:57 <travier[m]> s/AFAIk/AFAIK/

13:57 <travier[m]> That's from RPMs

14:03 <jlebon> actually, it looks like on FSB we ship enablement symlinks in both /usr/lib and /usr/etc which is confusing. my understanding is those get there because presets are applied during the rpm transaction at compose time.

14:05 <jlebon> and on FCOS we delete all those symlinks, and reapply those presets "from scratch"

14:18 <jlebon> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172956#c24

14:48 <dustymabe> travier[m]: we're going to start the rollout window for upgrades to the new `next` on Thursday morning Europe time. Would you be able to monitor a bit to see if any reports of failures come in?

14:49 <dustymabe> jlebon: ^^ is that what we agreed to?

14:49 <dustymabe> or was it late wednesday?

14:49 <jlebon> dustymabe: yeah, exactly +1

14:50 <jlebon> (Thursday morning)

14:55 <dustymabe> https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-streams/pull/664

14:58 <jlebon> :lgtm:

15:10 <dustymabe> release notes update (needs two reviews): https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-streams/pull/665

15:38 <dustymabe> needs one more review ^^

15:52 <dustymabe> jlebon: added a second commit to that PR ^^

15:52 <dustymabe> found some other issues that have been fixed

15:53 <jlebon> :lgtm:

16:01 <travier[m]> dustymabe: I can monitor the channel yes

16:06 <dustymabe> travier[m]++