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<r0ni>
why is appstream in contrib and kde-plasma-6 now? (me confuse)
<remiliascarlet>
Because the Fatpak pushers really hate Unix.
<r0ni>
if your using kde your likley also using contrib cuz you have too, i really can't see a reason for it to be in both besides a mistake
<r0ni>
remiliascarlet on a distro such as crux, with minimal software even in the first place... flatpak can save your ass. I get the hate, but really linux isn't unix
<r0ni>
ahh I see now, the contrib port no qt6, the kde port with qt6. see now that wasn't so bad
<remiliascarlet>
The only time I used Flatpak I didn't even realized I did, and only realized it when all of the sudden I magically ran out of storage on my PinePhone, and turned out to be the Flatpak cache being filled by over 20 GiB.
<remiliascarlet>
And the only Flatpak I had installed was DOSBox.
<r0ni>
i use flatpak all the time on my gnome desktop because gnome apps suck to package, flatpak is just easier
<remiliascarlet>
There are no "apps" on desktops.
<cruxbridge>
<tim> r0ni: it's there because of qt6 hard dependency, correct. imho we should drop the overlayed port and make it clear via README
<r0ni>
hrm the only diff i see in pango arm64 vs amd64 is my build has the manpage... suffice to say, i don't think theres a reason for the opt-arm64 port to exist any longer
<cruxbridge>
<tim> good catch. The manpage can be added of course
<cruxbridge>
<tim> python3-smartypants okay xD I am not sure, personally I don't mind skipping them. I dunno how jaeger and jue see this but that's just me
<r0ni>
no complaints here, I do like having manpages but only ones worth my time, and that one in particular dont seem to be
<cruxbridge>
<tim> it's a few extra deps to maintain, yeah, and I imagine we still wouldn't pull in these deps by default anyway
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> well if I ever finish gnome, they'll be there and you won't have too either way ;)
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> now that I've done a repo of 47 on slackware, and I've got it slimmed to how much i'd want to offer, I just really need to work out the deps and magically convert my slackbuilds to Pkgfile's
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> I had an idea to just cheat and look up BLFS info to start on deps and work things out from there cuz I can't list 'slackware' as a dep in crux 😆
<cruxbridge>
<tim> BLFS is a great resource
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> I've got patches and such from there a few times, but I'd never considered anything else, as that's part of the fun. But gnome is a different beast (though its much easier and smaller than kde) its less organized
<cruxbridge>
<tim> I got e.g. that massive qt5 patch from there. And even now that they have stopped to provide it, there is still documentation about how to create it floating around in their issue tracker :)
<cruxbridge>
<tim> I still can't wait for it to be dropped though
<remiliascarlet>
Feel like this channel will soon be just everyone on Matrix, cruxbot announcing updates in the ports, uwumeowmeownyaa, and r0ni.
<remiliascarlet>
Or let's just say everyone on Matrix, cruxbot, and uwumeowmeownyaa, because Flatpak users tend to be much more progressive.
<cruxbridge>
<tim> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> i'm on irc on my mac, and matrix basically wherever i have a browser and terminals are best used for other things
<cruxbridge>
<tim> there are tui options to access matrix as well, if that tickles your fancy ;)
<remiliascarlet>
I have IRC on my NAS, which I simply SSH into.
<remiliascarlet>
IRC client.
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> heh ya I haven't tried them yet, matrix feels too convoluted for tui clients
<remiliascarlet>
Matrix feels like it's designed solely for Element, even though there are other clients out there.
<remiliascarlet>
Matrix essencially has the same issues as XMPP has; there are plenty of clients available, yet they all suck.
<cruxbridge>
<tim> element is the reference implementation that includes all features, but you certainly are not bound to use element if you don't need e.g. calling, screensharing or whatever
<cruxbridge>
<tim> weechat-matrix worked great btw when I tried it, but I don't use it anymore tbh
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> neochat is cute but i hardly find myself using it
<remiliascarlet>
KDE software in general sucks when they just release it, and only become usable years later.
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> i dont normally keep kde anything on systems, and building cinny is just a ton of fun so i use it lol
<cruxbridge>
<tim> I like neochat but for me it crashes often for me, no idea if thats a me issue or neochat in general
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> I'm pulling kde-gear 24.12 down right now from git to prepare for rls on thursday
<remiliascarlet>
Neochat is made by KDE, which is why I brought that up.
<cruxbridge>
<tim> Obviously.
<cruxbridge>
<jloc0> there was a login issue for a while, but it's been working fine last i used it, admittedly been a few months now
<cruxbridge>
<tim> Had no login issues it just crashed when you changed the room or so, but I don't use it that much, it's just on the work notebook
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<cruxbot>
[core/3.7]: libdevmapper: updated to version 1.02.203
<cruxbot>
[core/3.7]: kbd: updated to version 2.7
<cruxbot>
[opt/3.7]: lvm2: updated to version 2.03.29
<cruxbot>
[opt/3.7]: dar: updated to version 2.6.16
<cruxbot>
[opt/3.7]: glib: updated to version 2.82.3
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<cruxbot>
[opt/3.7]: firefox-bin: updated to version 133.0.3
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<jaeger>
I like manpages for commands that actually get used, obviously a bit subjective
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<cruxbot>
[contrib/3.7]: python3-maturin: updated to version 1.7.8
<cruxbot>
[contrib/3.7]: go: updated to version 1.23.4
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