jaeger changed the topic of #crux to: CRUX 3.7 | Homepage: https://crux.nu/ | Ports: https://crux.nu/portdb/ https://crux.ninja/portdb/ | Logs: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/crux/
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<brian|lfs> still no aquinta network driver even on CRUX 3.8 rc1 lol
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<cruxbridge> <tim> r0ni: what things? I only had to rebuild rust
<r0ni> yeah i'm realizing this may be a me issue, as everything worked fine on x86 machine
<r0ni> revdep needs my manual caress
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<cruxbot> [core/3.7]: ca-certificates: updated to version 20241231
<cruxbot> [opt/3.7]: nettle: updated to version 3.10.1
<cruxbot> [opt/3.7]: fetchmail: updated to version 6.5.2
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<cruxbot> [xorg/3.7]: libvdpau: removed redundant dependencies
<cruxbot> [xorg/3.7]: mesa-demos: removed redundant dependencies
<cruxbot> [xorg/3.7]: xorg-libxfont2: removed redundant dependencies
<cruxbot> [xorg/3.7]: xorg-libxft: removed redundant dependencies
<cruxbot> [xorg/3.7]: xorg-libxpresent: removed redundant dependencies
<cruxbot> [xorg/3.7]: xorg-libxvmc: removed redundant dependencies
<cruxbot> [contrib/3.7]: fail2ban: updated rc script, updated /var/run references to /run, closes #21
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<cruxbot> [opt/3.7]: fcron: applied latest patches from upstream, closes #15
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<remiliascarlet> Happy new year!
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<Guest25> should i get soucre iso or normal iso ?
<Guest25> i want to compile
<Guest25> will normal iso download sources for compilation or i must use source one ?
<Guest25> also, how difficult it would be to rebuild all the base ?
<SiFuh_> Guest25: there is no source ISO. Just get the normal ISO. Download the ports and compile the core system yourself. As for difficulty, not much. It is all in the ports tree
<Guest25> ok
<Guest25> whats the differnece
<SiFuh_> Never seen that before in my life. Since it isn't hosted by CRUX I would guess it isn't official.
<Guest25> its link in crux.nu page mirrors
<SiFuh_> Find out who owns it
<SiFuh_> Seems it has been available for many versions.
<SiFuh_> Guess it is offical.
<jaeger> source image is official, it's just all the sources for everything used on the ISO
<jaeger> Normal ISO is binary packages but you can certainly rebuild all of them if you really want to
<jaeger> Not difficult at all, just time consuming
<Guest25> do i have options per package builds ?
<SiFuh_> Thanks jaeger. I am going to poke around the ISO and see what is on it.
<jaeger> I would not really recommend using the source ISO as a lot of the sources will be out of date since ports have been updated
<jaeger> SiFuh_: np
<Guest25> lookng through handbook its everything new to me, cant find the answers
<jaeger> Guest25: what kind of options?
<Guest25> supports build in package, like useflag on gentoo
<jaeger> No real equivalent to use flags here but you can tweak some things in /etc/pkgmk.conf for all builds and if you need/want to override something about the way a port is built you can always use a separate prtdir, similar to an overlay
<jaeger> In many cases it's not required, lots of software changes build behavior automatically when it finds optional dependencies
<jaeger> In some cases they are explicitly handled in Pkgfiles which are just bash syntax
<Guest25> is there any rootfs ? for chroot install from other distro
<jaeger> No dedicated rootfs for chroot install (the rootfs used by the ISO is not quite that) but you can easily accomplish that with the packages from the ISO and 'pkgadd' or even just tar (with a caveat that tar won't manage the package database)
<jaeger> Something like this: mkdir -p /path/to/chroot/var/lib/pkg; touch /path/to/chroot/var/lib/pkg/db; for P in /path/to/iso/crux/core/*.pkg.tar.xz; do pkgadd -r /path/to/chroot ${P}; done
<jaeger> There's a pkgutils package on the ISO you can extract to get pkgadd and use it on some other distribution
<Guest25> ok thanks, for first i think is better just to install base system, boot it and than i can check rebuild options and so..
<jaeger> The same mathod could be used to create a docker/lxc container if you wanted to go that route
<jaeger> Yeah, never hurts to get a feel for things before a deep dive :)
<jaeger> I'd definitely recommend trying it in a VM to see if you like it first
<Guest25> i gues i will, as i have read is something similar what arch was 20 years ago
<Guest25> they say arch was maded from crux
<jaeger> Inspired by, at least
<Guest25> i will like it i think
<Guest25> usb is done
<Guest25> wish me good luck
<Guest25> thanks for help
<jaeger> good luck :)
<jaeger> No problem
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<SiFuh_> This ISO image contains sources for the packages, kernel and utilities
<SiFuh_> Cool
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<Guest25> installer doesnt work in uefi mode, i try to burn it in mbr but than it doesnt want to chroot
<Guest25> gpt mode just prompt me in the minimal bash grub shell
<jaeger> It should work in uefi mode, how did you write it to usb?
<Guest25> burn
<jaeger> What is burn?
<Guest25> rufus
<jaeger> ISO or DD mode?
<Guest25> iso
<jaeger> Try DD mode, might work better. I'm not sure what rufus does under the hood for ISO mode
<Guest25> will try that one, but iso usually always works
<jaeger> Also, disable secure boot if you're using that
<Guest25> its disabled
<jaeger> ok
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<Guest25> unfortunately no luck
<jaeger> Hrmm, odd. Are you using a VM or hardware?
<Guest25> in uefi mode it don't boot, it runs in mbr but haven't even try to chroot
<Guest25> hardware
<jaeger> Not sure what to say, it works on all the UEFI-capable hardware to which I have access
<Guest25> i can try to extract on mounted device and chroot to it
<jaeger> Could also try using dd from linux if you have a linux system available or boot a different ISO/CD, but that's more work
<jaeger> Out of curiosity what motherboard do you have?
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